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[edit] How to put images into userboxes?

I've uploaded an image onto wikipedia, but now have no idea how to put that image into a Userbox! Any help please? Thanks:)Brantonli 13:09, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Auto Warn User Page?

I once found a user pafe where you could enter a user name or ip address and it would automatically warn them. Does anyone know what page this is? Please post on my talk page. Cnriaczoy42 00:29, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Do you mean a template like:

Thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and it has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you may want to do. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. ?

--Light current 01:04, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

No, It was a user page someone created where you enter the persons name/ ip address, and it would post that automatically. Cnriaczoy42 01:08, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

There are several versions of the (quasi-)auto-warn page I imagine you to reference; the most frequently transcluded is this by Adam1213 and ERCheck, to use all or some of which you might click on the edit tab here and copy the relevant syntax to your userpage or some subpage thereof. Joe 06:20, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Change username

How can I edit my username since it is case sensitive? Eg: from "Johndoe" to "JohnDoe". Please help me?

Please see Wikipedia:Change username. --The Gr e at Llama ^{(now on editor review!)} 00:58, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

And in your case, it would be best to simply make a new account. Since you only have three other edits, you could just make NaveenKoneru or whatever you want and forget about Naveenkoneru. Hyenaste ^(tell) 01:02, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes, that would be better. --The Gr e at Llama ^{(now on editor review!)} 01:04, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox: Instructional Videos

I'm planning to do some Wikipages on instructional videos but I noticed there aren't any infoboxes for these. Could I make one myself or do I ask someone to make one? Thanks. Doberdog 01:20, 31 October 2006 (UTC)Doberdog

If you want to request, Wikipedia:Requested templates is the right place to ask. You are free to make one yourself of course. See Help:Templates for that -- Lost^(talk) 05:43, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jump to Contents

How do I add the following tag

immediately before the Contents of the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Mathematics

As a regular visitor, I want to jump to the Contents as soon as possible but I do not know how to achieve this unless an HTML-tag is added OR a button is added at the top of the page BY YOU. Twma 01:36, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

I've added a DIV with id="Contents", which makes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Mathematics#Contents link to the spot I think you want. -- Rick Block (talk) 02:26, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

I clicked your above link four times with two different machines all indpendently, it went to the top of the required page, nowhere near the Contents table. Please try it yourself. Thanks. Twma 01:24, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

It is working now. I do NOT know why. Twma 07:22, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deleted history?

Compare a cached version of Vittorio Emanuele Orlando with its history. The cached version doesn't exist in the history! I know there's been an edit to that page since April 2005 because I put in his picture less than two months ago! What gives--is this a Wikipedia glitch or am I going crazy? PBP 01:58, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Check the page logs. DragonflySixtyseven deleted all but 14 edits to purge a copyvio, thereby removing your edit. Hyenaste ^(tell) 02:04, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] derivation of a word coming from Greek philosophy

Derivation of the word PARADIGM.Hope my questioning is clear .

Sorry, actually, it's not clear (to me at least). Please rephrase it into a clearer sentence and ask it at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Language. Hyenaste ^(tell) 02:07, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] who is the author of wikipedia

who is the author of wikipedia?

Everyone and no one. Every single person in the entire world has the oppurtunity to edit Wikipedia, and yet no one can make a claim as to who is the actual author. And no, Jimbo Wales is not the author. Dooms Day349 Happy Halloween! 03:00, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

If you're wondering how to cite an article, please click the "cite this article" link on the left in the toolbox. -- Rick Block (talk) 03:07, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Car - Tape Recorder Problem

Hello, I have a good friend of mine and she has a problem and am unable to find a resolution for this.His car is a Toyota Corolla LE 2002 model . One year back , the car stereo suddenly stpped working. On showing to the Car dealer , they advised that it would cost around 500$ and did nt recommend for that. However , suddenly one day it started working and was on for another year or so.After that , again it stopped , but the trick was if you push the cassette hard , it worked. Again it went on for 2 months but now has not been working. My friend feels that some part is loose and hence it suddenly starts working and suddenly stops working. I just thought I will post a query here to see if somebody might be able to help my friend by recommending some service which will be help out here. My friend lives near the Desplaines , area in Illionis.

Bye...M

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. -- Lost^(talk) 03:15, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Well to me, it sounds like the switch that is activated by pushing the casssete in. Do you know a hobby electronics person who could take a look at it. Its probably a simple job--Light current 03:31, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help on Starbucks

Can someone with some page formatting experience come and help us on the Starbucks article page, per THIS discussion? Thanks in advance. Anchoress 03:22, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image replacement

Hi there. Although I usually have no problem using Wikipedia (over 1500 untroubled edits), I recently tried to upload a new version of an image, Image:Sabriel_Book_Cover.jpg. After I uploaded the new image, however, the image appeared to be exactly the same as before, despite a notice in the file history that the file had apparently been changed by me, and the fact that my new image was a different size. This change may be of low importance (changing the book's cover image from that of the associated audiobook cover to that of the book cover), but it's still very frustrating to have the system appear to have accepted my changes but have not updated the image. Does it appear that I've done anything wrong? Does anyone else see an updated version that doesn't say "Read by Tim Curry"? If so, please tell me what I have done wrong or what has happened. Thanks, Nihiltres 04:04, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Ha, yes you have made a mistake and it's a very common one! Do make sure to clear your browser's cache of pictures; otherwise, you'll just find the old version placed instead. For Internet Explorer, press Ctrl+F5. For Firefox, press Ctrl+Shift+R. For Opera and Konqueror, just press F5. Such is the frustration of uploading a new version of an image for the first time. Hyenaste ^(tell) 04:10, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

No, sorry, I checked for that mistake before coming here. Thanks, but after emptying my browser's cache, restarting the browser, clearing the cache again, and returning to the image page, I still see the old version. Are you sure that the current version is 391 by 648 pixels and does not contain the text "Read by Tim Curry"? Nihiltres 04:19, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes, the image is the one you uploaded. I have found that when Wikipedia appears to accept your changes, but the changes don't appear, it is a cache problem. Unfortunately I don't know why your browser is stubborn to use the right picture. But YES, the picture that I and others will see is the one you want without "Read by Time Curry". Hyenaste ^(tell) 04:25, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

OK, I reloaded in a separate browser, and it shows up in that browser. This is a very frustrating problem; that my browser does not bypass its cache properly. Thank you for your time and patience. Nihiltres 04:30, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Good luck on getting your usual browser to display the image properly. As an afterthought, were you at Image:Sabriel_Book_Cover.jpg when you performed the hard refresh? It may not affect it, but it just may. Nonetheless, I'm sure eventually the picture will be replaced.Hyenaste ^(tell) 04:33, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] home page

how do i get wikipedia to be my homepage?

thanks a bunch Redsoxdiehard 04:15, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Easy! Simply go to the Main Page, find "Tools" on your toolbar, and go down to "(Internet) Options..." Open that section, and click the "General" tab (if it's not already selected), then see where it says "Home Page". Just click "Use Current", and it will fill it in for you. If something goes wrong with the auto-fill-in, just copy and paste http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page into the section. Don't forget to press "Apply". Hyenaste ^(tell) 04:22, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Those instructions are system- and browser-specific. On my browser (Mozilla SeaMonkey), what you do is go to Edit / Preferences / Navigator and change the home page location there. You shouldn't assume any particular browser or system for a user who didn't specify one. *Dan T.* 19:45, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CD Baby

I recently added a link to the 80s band Will Powers. Since I added it, somebody has added a "this cd is available through CD Baby" link. This seems like an ad to me. I did some searching on Wikipedia and found a number of bands that have similar messages on them. Since the main reference to CD Baby seems to currently be under dispute, I haven't removed the CD Baby link from Will Powers' entry. Should I? What about all the other CD Baby links? Thank you for your help! R. Kevin Doyle 04:40, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

The line The CD is available at CD Baby. is definitely advertisement in this article and should be removed. Wikipedia is not a catalogue of CD Baby's products. Any such trivial line in an article should be removed in my opinion. Hyenaste ^(tell) 04:47, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

UPDATE!:BrokenSegue has already removed it as spam, so you're probably good to go for the whole lot of them. Hyenaste ^(tell) 04:49, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

I observe there are 230 pages with links to this web site (cdbaby dot com). In images and talk pages as well as articles. 34 in Talk:Dark Cabaret alone. Probably needs expert attention, some may be legitimate... Notinasnaid

Thank you all for your help and advice! What would be a legitimate use of CD baby's link? R. Kevin Doyle 18:03, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

I believe there are some (independent) musical artists whose main distribution channel is CD Baby (they're not sold in record stores or through a major label); perhaps the fact that they're on that site would be relevant then? *Dan T.* 19:43, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Fair enough. Thank you again! R. Kevin Doyle 22:47, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wound Vac

What is a wound vac?

No idea, but it doesn't sound like its related to wikipedia, in which case you are asking at the wrong forum. You can try asking at reference desk. This helpdesk answers queries related to wikipedia only -- Lost^(talk) 05:41, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Does it relate to transformers?--Light current 11:58, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Try http://www.wheelessonline.com/ortho/wound_closure. It's a method of closing large surgical incisions using a (sterile) vaccuum dressing.

[edit] Email

I have an e,ail address named (email snipped) When trying to log in I'm told it don't exist. HELP PLEASE

(email snipped) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.9.84.91 (talk • contribs).

Since its a gmail, please ask google. We are an encyclopedia and not related to google. And please dont leave your email ids on public places where they can be used by spammers -- Lost^(talk) 08:10, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why not Html tags

why we use wiki's on way for foramtting like bold, italic, and hyperlinks Why not Html tags ? does using wiki's own method to format text effect the performance. As i am familiar with html tags, it is esay for me to use html tags. but does it effect on the execution speed of the pages or any other performance

Wikimarkup is more user friendly. People do not necessarily need to know it to use it. For html, people need to know it. Second reason I can think of is that wikimarkup tends to standardise the way pages look. Of course, html can be used too. I am using it in my signature, but the usage is generally limited to userpages AFAIK -- Lost^(talk) 11:58, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

I think it is more friendly to the other editors to use the standard mark-up they will be familiar with. It also allows changes to the Wiki engine to translate into different HTML, or into entirely different formats, keeping a consistent look across the whole publication. Notinasnaid 12:08, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

You can still use html tags though they have been deprecated. In case you are a new user – you will learn Wiki syntax quick enough, take my word for it. :) — Nearly Headless Nick ^{L} 12:07, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

You might also be interested in Wikipedia:Technical FAQ, of which several questions recapitulate the advantages of the use of modified UseModWiki as against that of HTML. Joe 06:14, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Auto Log-off

Almost every other time I go to a new page, I am automatically logged off. Is this a problem that you're aware of? Steveo2 12:03, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

This is not normal. Did you check the "remember me" box when you logged on? Also, check the cookie settings in your browser (in Internet Explorer, Tools -> Options -> Privacy), Wikipedia needs cookies enabled in order to keep you logged in. — QuantumEleven 13:15, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] stubs

Hello, I've been wondering, is there a place where I can see what articles are stubs, as well as which articles are no longer stubs? | AndonicO Talk 12:19, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

All articles marked as stubs are automatically placed in Category:Stubs or Category:Stub categories -- Lost^(talk) 12:22, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Permanent links/Bookmarking

If I want to bookmark a page I'd like to easily reference again, and I click the Permanent Link button, what does that do? How do I return to the page? I have made a Permanent link to several pages but I'm not sure how to find where these pages are stored.

Thanks, Sam

Permanent Link isn't really anything to do with bookmarking; Wikipedia is a wiki, and so its pages tend to change; Permanent Link gives a URL to a nonchanging version of the page (for instance, a Permanent Link to the version of the Help Desk with just your question on wouldn't show this answer even after I've answered the question). To bookmark pages, just use your browser's bookmarking feature and ignore the Permanent Link option. --ais523 14:23, 31 October 2006 (U T C)

[edit] name and address list

I WANT TO KNOW HOW I CAN GET HOLD OF A LIST OF NAME AND ADDRESSES OF PEOPLE IN NEW MEXICO FOR AN ADVERTISING MAILING.

You will definitely not get it on wikipedia. We strongly discourage spamming. You could try a search engine -- Lost^(talk) 18:00, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] searching for my article

Hi,

I recently created an article called The Clean Air Campaign. When I search for "The Clean Air Campaign" the article pops up. When I just search "Clean Air Campaign" (which is how most people would search) nothing shows up. Is there a way to change the page so that the article will appear when "the" is not included in the search?

Thanks.

Ldurfee 16:31, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

What you want is a redirect. Basically, you'll have a page called "Clean Air Campaign" that does nothing except take the user to The Clean Air Campaign. Check out the redirect link above, and if you still can't figure out how to do the redirect, post here again for help. Good luck, and happy editing. --Tkynerd 17:42, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rerouting articles

There are two articles of high schools named [Saint Charles Senior High School] and [St. Charles West High School]. I am trying to link the two together because they are both in the same school district, but I would like to fully spell out 'saint' instead of using the abbreviation. Plus, if one types 'Saint Charles West High School' it would be nice if it automatically rerouted to St. Charles West High School. If it is easier, then maybe this article could just be renamed. Which would be better to do? Tddwigg 16:55, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

For Wikilinks, you need two brackets: [[Saint Charles Senior High School]] gives you Saint Charles Senior High School.
I think it would be better to be consistent between the two articles; either both should be called "Saint..." or both should be called "St. ..." I don't know whether there are any guidelines at the Manual of Style as to which form you should use, but if so, you should follow them.
For the automatic reroute, what you want is a redirect. Check that page, and if you can't get it set up correctly, ask here again. Good luck, and happy editing. --Tkynerd 17:47, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question about a link that I posted? From Darwin 75.7.151.164

Dr. Darwinc 00:16, 1 November 2006 (UTC) How do I start a discussion page regarding this subject? This website is not a commercial page, you can only view the dolls, you cannot purchase anything from this website. Dr. Darwinc Dr. Darwinc 00:16, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Question about a link that I posted? 75.7.151.164
hxxp://www.blowmeupsexdolls.com/
I posted this link sometime ago and it was removed. If someone can take the time and review this website you will find that this website is truly unique.
This site contains images of the dolls all blown up and extensive descriptions of them. These contents are very good for reference and helpful to people that are doing research on adult dolls. I haven't seen any other site that is like it in the internet.
Please let me know how I can include this link on the adult doll article according to Wikipedia's guidelines. Or please let me know if I can include it at all so I won't be left wondering what happened to my contribution... 75.7.151.164

Its a commercial website asking people to buy the dolls. That is considered spamming and is strictly not allowed on wikipedia. -- Lost^(talk) 17:59, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Not an answer, but observation: I think you did a fine job, and have an excellent site. Please contact me at ejwhite at vrinnovations dot com

I glanced at the page you linked to. It doesn't appear to be a commercial page, and Wikipedia is not censored, so that part isn't a problem. However, I'm not sure how "encyclopedic" that link would be considered. My recommendation is to start a discussion on the article's talk page about why the link was removed. Good luck, and happy editing. --Tkynerd 18:00, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Virtual Sex Machine removed

Some person removed the article I wrote regarding the Virtual Sex Machine and redirected it to a page on teledildoncs that claims haptics technology like the Virtual Sex Machine doesn't exist.

The simple fact is, it does, and has for the past 6 years in the public domain. When I try to correct the article, I cannot of course, get to it because it just redirects.

I find it offensive that someone would remove an actual entry that is clearly legitimate. I can understand not wanting commercial articles that look like ads, and I was careful to write just the facts of the product. I am a published author, so I have some experience in this.

Clearly someone with more control has done this for whatever personal reasons they have. If this is how this system operates, it clearly isn't any more accurate than a specific encyclopedia version. Indeed, it is even less so. With a specific publisher of an encyclopedia, you at least have someone to go to.

I'll advise you to be careful about getting into an edit war, but with that said, it's easy to get to a redirect page: (1) follow the redirect; (2) at the top of the page you were redirected to, it says "Redirected from Virtual sex machine"; click on that link; (3) bingo, you're at the redirect page. Again, I wouldn't like to see an edit war develop out of this, but Wikipedia editors need to know how to reach redirect pages. Good luck, and happy war-free editing. :-) --Tkynerd 17:54, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

(after edit conflict) The article was submitted for proposed deletion. That is a process whereby anyone can propose that an article be deleted without discussion. If the prod tag remains for five days withour protest (you can protest by simply removing the tag), it is deleted without any debate on the merits of the article. This is the log of the article's deletion. After the article was deleted, another user—not the deleting administrator, and apparently unrelated to that action—created a page with the same name of the deleted article as a redirect to teledildoncs. You can access the redirect page itself by going to Virtual Sex Machine, and then clicking on the link in "(Redirected from Virtual Sex Machine)" at the top of the redirected article. You can study the page history of that redirect by clicking on the history tab at the top of the page. There are a number of options. You can ask for deletion review where users will debate whether to undelete the article. You could also, if you saved the text of the article, replace the text into the existing redirect. I cannot see the deleted article to review it for encyclopedic content, but please note that if it violates certain policies or fails to meet others it may be that it should not be reposted. A bit of a laundry list: articles should be verifiable through reliable sources, the poster should not have a conflict of interest by having some personal stake in advertizing the product, and the subject should be notable. Some specific guidelines for notability that might fit the bill here would be WP:CORP for corporations and WP:WEB for web based content. Hope this helps.--Fuhghettaboutit 18:05, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Parts of your site have been taged??

Greetings! Today some of my students were looking up religious Saints on your web site. Several had messages about, "fucking", "sucking", "fingering", etc. I think you get the picture. One of the ones I was able to print out was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/luke_the_evangelist this particular one said, "luke sucks cock in hell"

As you can imagine these statements were an eye opener for a group of 4th and 5th graders. I hope you can purge this information. We'd like to try again tomorrow.

Thank you.

Anthony Moreno Christ the King Catholic School-Denver,CO <email removed>

Hi!. Unfortunately, there are some individuals who enjoy creating articles on puerile nonsense and inserting the same into established articles. We call them vandals. The article you cite has been deleted. If you want to Look at great articles on religious topics, you might find the articles posted here and here particularly helpful.--Fuhghettaboutit 18:18, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

He might have meant Luke the Evangelist, which was indeed vandalized recently. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 18:28, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Ah yes,. I assumed without thinking that it had been deleted because the link went to a non-existent page.--Fuhghettaboutit 18:46, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism is a bit of an issue here, which is understandable due to the large numbers of anonymous edits we get. It's highly unlikely that a person would come across multiple vandalized pages in one sitting, though, since they're usually fixed fairly rapidly. Hopefully you'll have better luck next time; I'm sure that if you pointed out the articles you are planning to visit here, someone could keep an eye on them just in case. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 18:28, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

It's highly unlikely that a person would come across multiple vandalized pages in one sitting .. it is quite possible that one of the students was doing the vandalism - and would explain how multiple vandalised articles were being hit. It only takes one "more educated" 4th/5th grader to "educate" the others in this manner! -- Chuq 12:19, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dotted lines

Please, What are the red dotted lines under under some words in the editing pane? Is it some sort of spellchecker? Is it because I switched my browser to Firefox? When I use IE the lines are not there. Thank you -82.37.115.44 19:37, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it's a new feature in Firefox 2.0, and it's enabled probably because you installed a dictionary. If you go to Tools|Options|Advanced, you can uncheck "Check my spelling as I type" to disable this option. Cheers, Tangot a ngo 19:40, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Doh! Yeah I remember installing the dictionary now. Thank you :-) 82.37.115.44 19:45, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Redirecting

I cannot get the redirect to work. Every time I click on the redirect button. #REDIRECT this happens → 1.REDIRECT redirect.I would gladly appreciate help in this matter.

Happy Halloween. Dr. IP

Does that occur when you hit Save Page, or just when you hit Show Preview? For some reason, when you click Show Preview, a redirect will render like that, even though it will render correctly once you have clicked Save Page. Hyenaste ^(tell) 20:08, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah I figured it out. That was odd though. Since i am the preview before you save type it was quite interesting. Ip

[edit] How to add article without deleting another article's auto redirect

Hi! I want to add an article on "David Steinman" without deleting the auto redirect for "David B. Steinman" (another person) I can't find how to set up the page so people will have a choice between both David Steinman's. Can anyone advise me on this?

Thank you! Sheila Huettl, Freedom PressFreedompress 20:49, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Try Wikipedia:Disambiguation. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 20:51, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you so much!

[edit] edit function in COTM template

I have created a Collaboration of the Month box for the Wikipedia:WikiProject Nursing see Wikipedia:WikiProject Nursing/cotm & I would like it to have a direct link to the "edit" function of the page of the month as can be see on Wikipedia:WikiProject UK geography/cotm when I copy the code "If you see ways in which this article can be improved please [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title={{UK geo article}}&action=edit edit it]" & replace {{UK geo article}} with {{nursing article}} is gives a very funny appearance like "assessment&action=edit edit it" Is this because our article of the month is two words & the UK geo usage is only 1 word - or am I doing something wrong? Any ideas about how to fix this would be gratefully appreciated.— Rod ^talk 21:20, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

seems to be sorted by helpfull people at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) Thanks — Rod ^talk 23:29, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

How do I join the forums?72.75.142.174 21:22, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright, fair use, and classical music excerpts

I'm currently writing an article on the Dante Symphony and would like to include some small excerpts from the music, as the article naturally discusses the principal themes of the symphony. (I've already included musical notation graphics and it makes sense to have musical excerpts to go along with them.) Each of the themes runs for probably less than 12 seconds or so; the symphony itself runs to 50 minutes. Is it permissible to include these brief excerpts from a recording of the symphony? Doing so would seem to be consistent with fair use, but I don't want to include any excerpts until I know for sure. (It might also be relevant for me to state that I've already included some MIDI audio files that I've made myself, but these certainly don't do justice to the sound of a full orchestra.) If it is permissible, what kind of attributions do I need to make, if any? --Todeswalzer|Talk 21:42, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

A few segments of 12 seconds or so probably qualify as fair use, but I think that freely licenced MIDI files would be preferred, even if the quality wasn't quite so good. --Cherry blossom tree 23:23, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

The relevant guideline is at Wikipedia:music samples GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 00:00, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Excellent, thanks for the help. --Todeswalzer|Talk 00:26, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Can I delete a #REDIRECT after I have fixed it?

I accidently made a stupid spelling mistake when I created an article just now. So I moved the page from "Teardrips from My Eyes" to "Teardrops from My Eyes". Will it screw anything up if I put {{db-author}} on the #REDIRECT page to get rid of it.? Thanks! Mattisse (talk) 23:13, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

No, that's fine. --Cherry blossom tree 23:19, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

{{db-r3}} might be better. jd || talk || 23:21, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

I'll do it. Thanks! Mattisse (talk) 23:28, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

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