User talk:Helzagood

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Contents 1 Welcome 2 Postgraduate education 3 Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #1 4 Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #2 5 Speedy notice 6 Kiwanja

[edit] Welcome

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[edit] Postgraduate education

1. When editing an article on Wikipedia there is a small field labelled "Edit summary" under the main edit-box. It looks like this:

   

   The text written here will appear on the Recent changes page, in the page revision history, on the diff page, and in the watchlists of users who are watching that article. See m:Help:Edit summary for full information on this feature.

   When you leave the edit summary blank, some of your edits could be mistaken for vandalism and may be reverted, so please always briefly summarize your edits, especially when you are making subtle but important changes, like changing dates or numbers. Thank you.

2. Please provide a citation for your claims. I've never heard postgraduate education referred to as "quaternary education". That's not to say that it mightn't be, but it needs a citation. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 22:20, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

(1) Sarcasm is not neccessary, thanks ;-) (2) Do a simple search on Google, and check out my comments on the talk page Thanks Helzagood 22:48, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Er, where was the sarcasm? More importantly, it's up to the person making a claim to provide citations for it, not those who dispute it. I've responded to your other comments at Talk:Postgraduate education. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 09:28, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

(1) The sarcasm lies in you saying "there is a little field named...." if that is not sarcasm, I don't know what is. Everyone should know that there is such an entry field, if you had simply asked me to use it, it wouldn't been an issue, but to be so rude is not neccessary.
(2) You quote your experience in higher education as evidence of your point, truth is, you have experience in only one institution as far as your user page suggests. I have worked in several HE colleges and universities accross the UK, for several decades and have come accross the term "quaternary education". I do not claim that the term is popular, as I even stated in my edit to the article, but it is used. Moreover, just because the term is not generally used by the public does not mean it is not encyclopaedic - the names of computer programming languages are not generally used or known to the public, but they feature quite heavily in wikipedia. Helzagood 11:56, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

1. The wording is the standard Wikipedia template {{summary}}. I think that you're being rather over-sensitive. If you still insist that it's sarcastic and rude, I suggest that you take this up at Template talk:Summary.
2. I have experience in seven universities, but that's not the point (unless you think that one's knowledge is limited to what is said in one's own place of work). The point is, as I keep stressing, Wikipedia policy about citation. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 12:48, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #1

Reach out Reach out is a program aimed at allowing users to bring issues that they have had in Wikipedia to a listening, sympathetic and caring audience: "No one can know how we feel if we do not say. We cannot expect to get understanding if we do not ask for it. No one will dispute that sometimes life's issues are too much for one person. It is fair to say that sometimes Wikipedia's problems fall under the same heading. This is a place where you can bring the bruises that can sometimes be got on this project for attention." Stress Alerts The Stress alerts program aims at identifying users who are stressed, alerting the community of thier stress and works in tandem with the Stressbusters at trying to identify causes of stress and eliminating them. Note from the editor Welcome to this new format of the Esperanza Newsletter, which came about during the last Advisory Council meeting - we hope you like it! The major changes are that each month, right after the Council meeting, this will be sent out and will include two featured programs and a sum up of the meeting. Also, it will be signed by all of the Advisory Council members, not just Celestianpower. Have an Esperanzial end of March, everyone!

The last AC meeting (full log) Future meetings are to be held monthly, not fortnightly as before. Bans and Access level changes (apart from autovoice) in the IRC channel are to be reported at the new log. In the IRC channel, there is going to be only one bot at a time. The charter requires members to have 150 edits and 2 weeks editing. Why this is the case will be clarified. A new Code of Conduct will be drafted by JoanneB and proposed to the Esperanza community. The NPA reform idea is to be dropped officially. Charter ammendments are to be discussed in future, not voted on. The Advisory Council is not going to be proposed to be expanded by the Advisory Council themselves, if others want to propose it, they will listen. Signed... Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, KnowledgeOfSelf and FireFox 17:47, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #2

Barnstar Brigade The Barnstar Brigade is a new program aimed at giving more very deserving yet unappreciated users barnstars. It will officially start on 2006-04-09, but signing up is encouraged before this date: "Here in Wikipedia, there are hundreds of wikipedians whose work and efforts go un-appreciated. One occasionally comes across editors who have thousands of good edits, but because they may not get around as much as others, their contributions and hard work often go un-noticed. Sadly, these editors often leave the project. As Esperanzians, we can help to make people feel appreciated, be it by some kind words or the awarding of a Barnstar. A project the size of Wikipedia has thousands of editors, so there are plenty of people out there who deserve recognition, one just has to find them. The object of this program is not to flood editors with Barnstars, but to seek out people who deserve them, and make them feel appreciated." Stress Alerts The Stress alerts program aims at identifying users who are stressed, alerting the community of thier stress and works in tandem with the Stressbusters at trying to identify causes of stress and eliminating them. Information Welcome to the second issue of the new format Esperanza Newsletter - we hope you still like it! This week, it was delivered diligently by our new dogsbody. MiszaBot (run by Misza13): any execution complaints should go to him. Content comments should be directed at the Esperanza talkpage. Thanks!

The last AC meeting (full log) The next elections: Approval voting as before and, also as before, an previous leadership member can run. Please submit your name for voting in the relevant section of this page. Voting starts on 2006-04-23 and ends on 2006-04-30. There will be three places up for grabs as KnowledgeOfSelf is leaving Wikipedia. Please see the previously linked page for full details. The Code of Conduct is now ready for extensive discussion! Specific comments should go to the Code of Conduct talk page, discussion of having one at all should be directed to the main Esperanza talk page. The current process for accepting proposals for new programs has been deemed fine. All Advisory Council members and the Admin Gen are to endevour to be bold when viewing discussion. If they feel that consensus has been reached, they will act accordingly. A plea from the editor... The propsed programs page is terribly underused! Please leave any comments, good or bad, on the page, to help us determine the membership's thoughts on the ideas there. Signed... Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, KnowledgeOfSelf and FireFox 19:53, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy notice

[edit] Kiwanja

A tag has been placed on Kiwanja, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because it is an article about a certain web site, blog, forum, or other community of web users that does not assert the importance or significance of that web location. Please read our criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 7 under Articles, as well as notability guidelines for websites. Please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources which verify their content.

Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. To contest the tagging and request that administrators wait a while for you to add contextual material, please affix the template {{hangon}} to the page, and put a note on Talk:Kiwanja. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Seraphimblade 18:37, 10 December 2006 (UTC)