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Why I reverted the edit on Dec 12, 03:

It has been disputed for many years who "invented" the first light-bulb. There was much parallel development and no clear winner. It would be POV to state clearly that any one individual "invented the first light bulb".

The claim that the Edison/Beacon lawsuits established Goebel as the rightful inventor is false. http://www.heinrich-goebel-realschule.de/Daten_engl.htm and elsewhere says:

Two more defendant companies present the total of over 100 pieces of evidence as well as old Goebel incandescent lamps. In front of experts, called by the court, Goebel reconstructs the tools he used at that time and also his lamps of 1859. There are inconsistent judgements for and against Edison. Edison is only successful in two processes with appeal. This does not mean that the real truth had come forth. The opposing parties do not continue with these processes because of the high costs and also because the Edison copyright would expire in the following year, 1894.

Anjouli 13:28, 12 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the link is no longer valid. There is now another text at the site which puts a different light on things: There were legaliteies which went both for and against Edison but Goebels blub was deemed to be original and was given priority, a belated satisfaction for the old researcher. (from http://www.heinrich-goebel-realschule.de/e_prozess.htm) -- Any more sources about this? Kruemelmo 10:45, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)


From http://www.heinrich-goebel-realschule.de/

On the 14th September 1929, in connection with the electro-technical society in Hanover, Heinrich Goebel's home town of Springe celebrated by putting a plaque up on his birth house.

A bright light burns day and night to symbolise its inventor, Goebel, who was first to introduce the world to electric lamp.

In 1954, in connection with a light studying group from Wiesbaden, the town celebrated the hundredth anniversary of the invention. At the foot of the Deister the Goebel Bastei was founded.

A lamp symbol was donated by lamp industry for the occasion. At the base of the obelisk is a plaque with the inscription.

IN HONOURS OF THE INVENTOR OF ELECTRICAL LAMP

HEINRICH GOEBEL BORN. 20 APRIL 1818 IN SPRINGE DIED 16 DECEMBER 1893 NEW YORK

ESTABLISHED TO 26.06.1954 BY THE CITY BRANCH ON THE OCCASION OF THE CENTENARY OF THE INVENTION

So who is the Inventor?.. Correct your mistake!

[edit] Point of view

I have the impression that the article in World Wide School on which the lemma is based, is very much point of view. It does not talk about who made the first lightbulb but who owned the patent for making the first practical lightbulb. If statements like "I took personal charge of running down this man and his pretensions in the section of the city where he lived and among his old neighbors. They were a typical East Side lot--ignorant, generally stupid, incapable of long memory, but ready to oblige a neighbor and to turn an easy dollar by putting a cross-mark at the bottom of a forthcoming friendly affidavit" are used to make a point I can only disqualify this information as slander, and the source as insincere. Adding all information from various sources, even that from World Wide School, it is probable that Goebel is the inventor of the lightbulb, allthough he did not own patents and his invention was to undeveloped to put it in practical use.