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[edit] AlmightlyLOL

I just recieved a message from you telling me that I could not link to AlmightyLOL since it was deleted, as I go to actually *create* the page, it is protected. Could it get unportected for creation? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Babrook (talk • contribs) .

Not notable enough for Wiki? Shame. A webforum that crashed Ebuamsworld and other large websites, and clocks in thousdands of users per day isn't notable enough?

There is a difference between 'users' and viewers.

Result: Delete stayed. User left me alone.

[edit] Stop calling Hezbullah terroist: the view of the people of Lebanon

We Lebanese, do not regard the resistance forces of Hizbullah as militias, as referred to in the UN resolution, let alone any kind of terrorist organisation. Our resistance accomplished a major national mission by forcing Israeli troops to withdraw from most Lebanese territory in 2000 after 22 years of occupation. Since then there has been intense national debate about how Lebanon can defend itself in future once the resistance has achieved the liberation of the remaining occupied Lebanese land (the Shaba'a farms area) and the release of Lebanese detainees.

The Lebanese people's support for the resistance was demonstrated by the fact that Hizbullah and its allies won more seats in the 2005 elections, following the Syrian withdrawal, than when Syrian troops were still in the country. That is why Israel is now targeting civilians.

In the context of the continued occupation, detention of prisoners and repeated Israeli attacks and incursions into Lebanese territory, the capture of the Israeli soldiers was entirely legitimate. The operation was fully in line with the Lebanese ministerial declaration, supported in parliament, that stressed the right of the resistance to liberate occupied Lebanese territory, free prisoners of war and defend Lebanon against Israeli aggression. International law also allows peoples and states to take action to protect their citizens and territory. The Israeli onslaught is aimed not only at liquidating the resistance and destroying the country's infrastructure but at intervening in Lebanese politics and imposing conditions on what can be agreed.

Result: User dissuaded from making further edits through harsh means. Article semi-protected.

[edit] Israel

So Wikipedia is defined by mainstream thought, not facts? Ideas outside the mainstream that are factual are vandalism? I suggest whoever sent this stuff figure out just how the concept of mainstream is fascist by nature. The page on Israel has tons of lies on it, that are religious zealotry posing as facts on a world used encyclopedia. Concerning Nazism, it's an outright lie to suggest Nazism is "considered merely a collection of one man's often contradictory ideas rather than a coherent ideology." This is a revisionist lie to absolve Germany and the rest of Europe of it's wrong doings. This is the demon theory that people like Stalin and Hitler were merely abberations, and thank God we bound them and sent them back to the dimension they came from. To suggest that the catastrophe that has been the last century is the fault of just a couple of bad apples is not only a lie it's stupid and dangerous. Nazism has its roots in almost every aspect of German High Culture, not one miscrient with a funny mustache. It is true that he added wacked out eccentricities to the pot as evidenced in the Tibet expedition.


There are massive wholes in Wikipedia, just check out the page on Jean Mitry which I also corrected. There is little to nothing about some of the most vital information on earth on this page and when there is it's all wrong. Wikipedia is a failure as it's defined by mainstream thought which is by definition propaganda. Any mainstream... Result: User dissuaded from making further edits through talk page. Article semi-protected.

[edit] Sockpuppet fighting

I've only posted to one person today and you are not them. How was it that you found my name to address my signature? Am I speaking to the same person under a different name? If so, please make me aware because I don't like playing cats cradle. lilnessaslove

That is not what it states under the image category. Many of the images that people have posted of artist and actors are not made by themselves, yet they stay. If you scanned the images in, then naturally they can be assigned as your property that you provided to the community. Lilnessaslove 02:43, 21 July 2006 (UTC)lilnessaslove


You say the article needs more constructive information, well then how about you let me finish? I don't mean to be rude, but it's hard to complete an article when someone keep erasing it. If you want constructive information, then let me put it in there, one can only research so fast. I've found valid information and applied it to the article, clearly making a point of why this female is notable, only so you can turn around and start giving lip about vandalism that doesn't even exist. Do your job as an editor and "edit" the material, not erase. Americanbeauty415 03:55, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I've come to find that you are personally seeking to find something wrong with the articles I worked on rather then actually accepting the fact the articles are fine. I came to this theory because two of the articles you commented on were articles that already existed on wikipedia. Luke mejeras who name is really spelled Luke "mijeras" already had an article to his name but because his name was spelled wrong, it didn't attach itself to the link. It was when I corrected the error, and the name attached itself to the right page, that you suddenly took interest in an article that had been written for quite some time. How odd. The same applies to Erin Jennas who's original miscorrection was spelled Erin "Jennan". So if there was any act of vandalism on account of these articles, I'm astounded that you didn't catch them before I fixed these errors. Then you persume to tell me I am somehow linked to another user by sharing their account and therefore I must be indulging in some conspiracy plot to get my point across. Judging from your fictional assumptions and ability to overlook "inappropriate" articles that existed long before I touched them, it's obvious you are not a detective. You're an editor, so I'm going to kindly tell you and the rest of your gorginotts to stay off my ass and do what your job requires you to do. CORRECTLY MONITOR THE BOARDS.

Respectfully, Americanbeauty415 05:16, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Result: User Sockpuppet. Several users agreed, and all socks were blocked. However, user allowed to create decent articles, as long as they were in fact decent.

[edit] Israel

Why did you revert my removal of a brand-new user's insertion of an unnecessary tag on that page? --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 21:58, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Result: JPGordon didn't think the tag was needed - I did, but didn't really mind. Tag went.

[edit] Israel - lebanon conflict

Can I ask why you are repeatedly erasing complete articles that people are posting? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.51.209.37 (talk • contribs) . Result: Unknown. I think this was to do with a deleted page.

[edit] Welsh

Hi. This doesn't actually relate to Wikipedia, but it always intrigues me to meet people who are apparently not Welsh but speak the language. What led you to learn it? garik 19:09, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi! I didn't spot your edit on my talk page, it can get busy at times. I've had two welsh girlfriends, and went to univeristy at Bangor, which is bilingual. My mother also lived in north wales for a time. I can't speak welsh to save my life, but can understand it at any rate. I worked at a ski slope in Llandudno, and there are rather a lot of people that only speak basic english there. Odd. HawkerTyphoon 00:29, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Dwylo Seisnig ar ein merched del ni... Ble mae'r byd yn mynd, tybed? ;) Da iawn am ddysgu deall nhw! Mae llawer o Gymry brodorol yn methu gwneud hynny... garik 08:38, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] my userpage vandalism

thanks a lot for that reversion. I've put in for admin intervention after he told you to "sod off". SenorKristobbal 19:09, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Wow that is a nice surprise...I would give you one in return but that would almost take the meaning away. I'll keep an eye on your work in the near future and hopefully find a reason to give you one too. Cheers again SenorKristobbal 19:22, 24 July 2006 (UTC)


Eh lads...

Sod off!!

D

Nace is ace. 82.154.199.223 00:25, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Lebonon Page Stop acting like an officious Policeman of Wikipedia, I note that you are aiding and abetting the censorship of this page in favor of Israel at a time when contributors from this country need to have access

Please refer to another posting in this page on Isareal by sent to enlighten you by another wikipedian

Your support of the protection of the Lebanon page is not only restrictive of the ethos freedom of expression of wikipedia but ultra varies to your role as administrator of the wiki project.

Naturally the evens in Lebanon are causing considerable world wide interest as well as an humanitarian crises this also is the cause of interest in the wikipedia page on Lebanon, two countries seem to be in midst of a war.

Wikipedia editors from divergent points of view edit this page with an incresed frequency as it is topical news. By frequent edits from both sides a common consensus is arrived at which becomes the prevailing concensus.

You have now imposed an almost draconian censorship of this wiki page doing it at this time I feel makes you unfit to be an administrator of wikipedia because its an abuse of power, I have recorded this event against your record for the community to judge I have had e mail from Lebanese citizens who now cannot contribute to this page. The only mitigating circumstance is your inexperience and immaturity.

You may be aware that there was a campaign by supporters of Israel mostly Jewish e mail lobby associations to distort the content of wikipedia to a Jewish point of view.

This campaign usually follows Israel and USA foreign policy. The Jewish Wikipedia lobby demonize Iran Syria and Hezbollah while justifying the actions of Israel foreign policy. Removal of any adverse editorial on the founders of Israel demonizing the leadership of Arab countries etc.

There is also subtle distortion of history particularity in regards to the Palestinian conflict. In order to counter this organized and as such formidable onslaught on the neutrality of wikipedia Volunteers are keeping a record of hundreds of such pages and a report will be published later.

It is essential that wikipedia reflects a true world view


[edit] RE: Your support of the blocking of the Lebanon page and your logic as left on my talk page

Dear HawkerTyphoon

As a person who has managed to get permission to block wiki pages, I expected you to leave a reasoned and well thought through response on my talk page, But you are more stupid then anyone has previously thought HawkerTyphoon, this is what you have to say in your defense on my talk page.


“In my mind, Calais is occupied British territory, as is most of the US - but I don't go around firing rockets at civilians to make my point, do I? Wikipedia does not have to' support a wworld view, it is much more important that the entries are of a neutral point of view. Calling Israel a terrorist state when it is surrounded by enemies with which it has a racially-oriented conflict is not neutral point of view, however true it may be. I suggest that you read all of the Wikipedia policies, as you are clearly not aware of them. Wikipedia is not a democracy.”

The above is nonsense

HawkerTyphoon I wish to remind you that Wikipedia depends on the support of the World community. If the world community did not think the wiki was fair they would not participate The wikipedia project would fail.


In the Lebanon page you write that Hezbollah is a terrorist group and is considered as such in two continents, meaning that it must be portrayed as a terrorist group in wikipedia.

Presumably you mean the United States and Europe where it is considered a terrorist group. This represents only twenty percent of the world populations. Billions of people elsewhere consider it a liberation and self defense force. The BBC reports it as a militant group not a terrorist group.


I remind you that wikipedia takes a world view Not a Eurocentric view, or a view from the Bush Blair axis or an Israel view


Keep in mind that many of us are neither European or North American


In regards to Hezbollah in order you may enlighten yourself I refer you to a Guardian report on the organization at the following address.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/comment/0,,1828132,00.html

<<Free speech removed>>

[edit] You're comment

And yet WP:Sock bans the use of abusive sockpuppets, which I have yet shown myself to be. Amazing Grace 00:51, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] put this where you like

The Editor's Barnstar
Awarded for reverting vandalism more than once on my userpage. Cheers! SenorKristobbal 16:33, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Locomotive Engineer

I've put Category:Locomotive engineers up for a vote to be moved to "Locomotive designers/builders". Of course, if Duncharris kept up with the project page, he would have known I planned to do this. Mangoe 23:20, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I also see that Dunc simply went through and reverted all the various additions I made, rather than move them to Category:Locomotive engineers. I'm not sure whether to interpret this as an act of parochialism or ownership. The railroad technology articles tend to be a terrible mess as a whole; the Brits seem to have gotten there first in most cases and left articles that leave no room for American practice. But I'm largely afraid to touch them except for a few cases where the American experience (e.g., diesel locomotive) gives a good pattern to treat the whole of. The whole thing is rather discouraging. Mangoe 11:54, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Quick Question

I attempted to remove 2 links from the AC/DC article the do not meet WP:EL criteria. And you put them back??? Perhaps you are not familiar with WP:EL or WP:SPAM or the part of WP:NOT that says "Wikipedia is not a linkfarm"? There are actually several more links on that article that are questionable. Including thfhe first one claiming to be the "Official" website which is incorrect. The second link is the true homepage for the band. I was going to make those corrections as well but you rv'd me so fast I thought I'd better discuss it with you first. I will assume good faith that you will correct your error or, at least, let me finish what I had tried to start earlier. Even anon IPs can make valid contributions to Wikipedia. 142.166.254.138 23:58, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use

Why? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.181.63.245 (talk • contribs) 19:04, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] apologies

my apologies for mistaking you for the vandal who kept fooling with the Civil War article. Rjensen 05:57, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My 3RR

Thank you. Honest mistake: the page hadn't been edited for over a month, and I didn't mentally count the my first edit as a revert, even though I now see it was. I generally try to avoid such edit warring. Since there's no compromise beteeen having a template be on a page or not, it's a difficult situation, especially since the other editors involved appear to think my objections are meritless, are not inclined to discuss, and wish to preserve the status quo (i.e., not attract discussion with the template). It may take some more bold, revert, discuss cycles to move things along, but I'll go more slowly and give other editors time to respond. regards, Jim Butler(talk) 17:07, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] John G. Roberts' ancestry

Hey, I saw you posted on the John Roberts article. Where did you hear his mother was Polish? Thanks. Michael 05:40, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spamming?

Hi, Today I got the following messages:

Please do not add commercial links or links to your own private websites to Wikipedia, as you did in Emo (music). Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising or a mere collection of external links. You are, however, encouraged to add content instead of links. See the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thanks. -- Netsnipe (Talk) 16:24, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Please stop adding commercial links to Wikipedia, as you did in Emo (slang). It is considered spamming, and Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising. Thanks. -- Netsnipe (Talk) 16:24, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

This is your last warning. The next time you insert a spam link, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. HawkerTyphoon 16:48, 31 July 2006 (UTC)


I dont understand, I wasnt meaning to spam, but I was trying to point to a site which I felt was genuinely useful to the article. How is it that other external links to sites like mine are allowed, but mine is not?


[edit] Ohhh...

Apparently, another user had copied your little "Leave this user a comment" link, and he copied it with your name still in it, not substituting in his (User:Rjensen). I just corrected it on his user page. Sorry for the mix-up. Michael 22:03, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Talk page...

Why can't I delete something that was on MY talk page? If I knew how to archive, I would if it was important. --BoaDrummer 22:10, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] BNP logo

The image englufs my scren so i need it at a much smaller resolution than your screen.--Lucy-marie 22:52, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User boxes

Sorry if I came off as a bit hostile, or anything. I was just kinda angry that I didn't have as much control here as I thought. I was curious as to how you found all of those user boxes that are on your page? Is there some sort of list of them I can find? Thanks,

BoaDrummer 23:01, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edits by a lovely anon user, unsigned

Regarding the changing of bands to the genre "nu-metal", the only people who regard this as a derogatory term are those who do not like the genre. The only other generally accepted terms for these bands is "mallcore" which is far more derogatory. However, bands such as Kittie, DevilDriver, Coal Chamber, so on and so forth, are commonly misconceived as Metal bands when they are not, and are rather an off shoot of hard rock. It's because of free websites like this which, while providing a great resource, can at times allow erroneous information to be spread about. For a good source on metal classification, visit http://www.metal-archives.com, one of the most reknown websites for classifying bands as Metal, Metalcore and so on. It was from a thread on this website that I was lead here to make these changes, as a user erroneously complained on the Metal Archives forums that Kittie (a nu-metal / mallcore band) was alternative Death Metal and cited the Wikipedia article as his source for this erroneous piece of information. This becomes taxing both on the staff of the Metal Archives who have to deal with it on a regular basis and for fans of the Metal genre who must constantly listen to incorrect information being spread about and causing non-Metal bands to be labeled as Metal.

Furthermore, when bands such as Kittie, Slipknot and so on are incorrectly labeled as Metal, this perpetuates the common stereotype in the media that Metal motivates people towards violence, as these bands (and other bands which are even less metal) are labeled as Metal bands. Thus, both the Metal genre and Metal fans gain a bad reputation for the actions of irresponsible children who have been taught the erroneous genre for the music they listen to.

Ignorance perpetuates ignorance. I'm sorry if you saw my actions as some sort of vandalism, as that was not the intent. Whether you choose to label them as Nu-Metal, Mallcore or Hard Rock, there is one fact that is aboslutely true: these bands are not part of the Metal genre and it should not be incorrectly spread around as such. This only creates more aggression between music fans, the media and music, and so on.

As an example, a recent article was written saying that Metal has adopted Social and Political themes in the new millenium. It may be true that various Hard Rock / Mallcore / Nu-Metal bands have begun to use such themes (such as System Of A Down, Rage Against the Machine, etc.) recently, actual Metal bands have been using political and social themes for roughly twenty years now. It's this kind of misinformation which needs to be stopped as it does not do anyone good and just serves to continue the spread of ignorance. If you feel that you must change the genre classifications back to Metal, then that is your decision, but know that you will no longer be providing an accurate source of information.

However, I implore you to visit the Metal Archives (http://www.metal-archives.com) and view what bands are included on the site, which bands are left off of the site, the genre classifications, and perhaps even the staff and community's reasons for doing so. It's regarded as one of the best sources for Metal information, and if that website doesn't make you a believer, then nothing will.

Sorry for inconveniencing you in any way.

No worries on the assumption that I don't know my stuff. I'm an anonymous user over the internet and you were simply trying to do your job. I will consider your suggestion of signing up and working on these pages, as I do find Wikipedia to be a wonderful information source and like to adjust erroneous information. I will let you know if I have any further questions. On a side note, I noticed on your Information page that you have studied Computer Science - hats off to you, as that makes two of us.

[edit] Sources RE: Emo (Music)

So if I add content to the site, can I use my site as part of the "Sources List"

[edit] Re: Barnstar

Thanks! My first one, and it shall be cherished forever. Powers 22:18, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More?

What do you think the article needs until it is wikified? I think it conforms really well personally. --Xander the Potato Vanquisher 18:25, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Awesome! I am happy to see another EVE article get back to where it needs to be. --Xander the Potato Vanquisher 18:44, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lebanon

Im sorry but it is hard for me to keep a cool head. I have noticed that there is an ingrained bias in all articles related to the arab israeli conflict. The invasion of Lebanon and the daily horror we are seeing every day is enough to make me angry. Seeing how it is minimised or excused on wikipedia as well as on much of the media is driving me over the top. Trying to erase pictures of dead children saying they are "POV" is sickening.

--Burgas00 22:52, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What happened?

Hi,

Excuse me, Whould you please explain what is this [1]--Sa.vakilian 02:13, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Is this vandalism [2]?--Sa.vakilian 02:17, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] notable songs

The song "dick lips" by blink-182 how come songs like "dick lips" or "apple shampoo are more notable that "git up" (D12) or "handle this" (Sum 41) hit me back soon cause it's not fair if those songs deserve notability then so do "git up" and "handle this" and the blink tracks don't meet much of the wikipedia notable song standards either. seriously hit me back cuz it's driving me crazy.


James Epstein

[edit] Reverting

Why do you keep reverting the Avenged Sevenfold band member pages? You know we're working on making them better. Pleases stop reverting them. --BoaDrummer 22:14, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Why exactly does it say that those two pages (for the bio and music notablity) aren't Wikipedia policy? It doesn't matter if you think I like Avenged Sevenfold, it matters to the people that are coming to this website for information. If it's not there, then this site is NOT doing it's job. -- BoaDrummer 22:23, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Random Question

The idea that Japan, the Philippines, Israel, etc., should use British English is absurd. This move needs to be stopped.
Why is that idea absurd? Perhaps the Phillipines should use American English, but why Israel? Surely as a former colony of GB it should use standard English?

The U.S. is also a former U.K. colony -- should it use British English? (I assume that's what you mean by "standard English" -- somewhat colonial of you, I might add! :) ).

Israel now mostly uses American English, as does Japan.

--Cultural Freedom 2006-08-04 16:31 (UTC)

[edit] 3RR warning on Iraq War

Please be aware that you appear to be in violation of the Wikipolicy Three Revert Rule on Iraq War. If you revert an entry by another user on this article in the next 24 hours you may be subject to a 24 hour block from editing wikipedia. In the last 24 hours you have made the following reverts:

  1. 22:57, 3 August 2006
  2. 18:33, 4 August 2006
  3. 18:44, 4 August 2006
  4. 19:00, 4 August 2006

If you make another revert on this article prior to 18:33 5 August 2006 (UTC) you will be reported. --Bobblehead 19:25, 4 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Thyself

It probably seems quite sad, but I do rather miss your presence / feel tortured by your absence. Surely in this day and age even a top ranking naval officer has time for neo-philosophical MSN banter and episodes of Neighbours. God, my life was rich in your digital presence. Where am I now? I'll tell you where I am, Bromsgrove. But it's a lesser Bromsgrove, a Bromsgrove sans privo-social connection unto a fellow who actually deserves to be worshipped. He's a fellow that's an utter, dirty, selfish, loathsome fascist, but one who can tell you exactly why. North Worcestershire is a far poorer place without thee, Mister [? - Insert appropriate naval rank here] Symonds. Please come back to me one day, for I have photographically documented each of my you-induced erections and interpolated them into a humorous .gif image in thine honour. God bless you. TB LOL

[edit] Superman Returns article

No, totally good cuts. I'm borderline on the CBR one as they're a major news source in comic circles, but other than that right. If I have time this weekend the synopsis is getting cut down--my last big edit to that was to beef it up just for completeness and accuracy--people had gone nuts in previous revision to de-Jasonize it for whatever reason, which is more a fan thing than an accuracy thing. Now that all that info is back, it's just cutting it down to the meat. After that, Reactions needs a big smack, and then likely the pre-history of the movie section can go down to a paragraph or two at most. rootology (T) 16:52, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] External Links

Hi, I have tried to add my site to the external liniks on two articles, Emo (music) and Emo (slang), I can't understand why I can't do this, my site is surely of value to readers of the article and I have even added content to Emo (slang), surely I should be credited for that? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Monty2002 (talk • contribs) .


[edit] Khatri

The Khatri article is vandalized several times a day every day by several individuals by inserting nonsense in it. The tags are frivolous. It has been going on for months. There is not going to be a consensus ever, unless the vandals are banned.--Vikramsingh 00:09, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Battleships

Here's 3 good sites to start you off....


[edit] Luke skills

This matter has been discussed on Redvers talk page. Dean randall 07:32, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Luke skills

I'm sorry you will not give me the benifit of the doubt and just accept that i took the photo. The layout of Nyewood Lane is such that the pitch is very close to the crowd. Only a small railing which surrounds the Pitch prevents spectators from invading the pitch. So it is ideal for taking photographs. ➨ Darren

[edit] About Khatri page

By reverting you changed the text to:

The Khatris are an Asura community that originated in the Potwar Plateau of Punjab.

You should know that "Asura means demon or an evil spirit in classical Sanskrit. IPKapoor is the same person as SanjayMohan, who has been inserting racist text in other places: For example on Sarasvati River[3] Where his text implies that people of Punjab are "Dasyu savages", in classical Sanskrit Dasyu implies robbers.

--Vikramsingh 01:38, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Inconvienence

As i threw away the photograph (which was taken last season) and deleted the file the only evidence i have of its existance remains on the SD card. However it would mean going back to Boots and asking them to back it onto CD or print it off as we do not have a card reader. I do not wish to go to these lengths just to prove i took the photo. ➨ Darren

You will have to delete it then. I am not paying £3 to develop my photos just to prove i took them. I shouldn't have to pay for my Wikipedia experience. This is an outrage. ➨ Darren

I understand. I hope this was made in good will and you are not affiliated with Redvers and his plans to Harrass me and "rid" ➨ JIMOTHY T and I from Wikipedia. Thank you ➨ Darren

[edit] Opinions

Everyone has there opinions--Jeyler 23:40, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

yeah, as he said, the war has just begun (on vandals). alphaChimp laudare 23:53, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you,THANK YOU! for your revert on Capitalism

Certainly it cannot be expressed enough. Three times I have told Lulu of the Lotus Eaters that if he wants to mention that the official Catholic position is only "sometimes" or "partially" held by the Catholic Church, he needs to provide reliable references. There are already three encyclicals in favor of what I wrote, plus the Catechism of the Catholic Church (I included all four as references). He has provided no resources for any of his opinions on the Catholic position and tried to ignore me and the Wikipedia Verifiability policy. Should I request mediation? I will be back next Sunday--I am off to bed. JBogdan 04:22, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Message concerning vandalism on Paris Hilton page

I received your message concerning my "vandalism" of Paris Hilton's information article. I will refrain from letting my opinions show through as I did when I added a line calling a statement she made a "publicity stunt". However, the comment at the bottom of the page concerning her world record as the most overrated celebrity is fact. The comment I admit was full of my own personal opinions, but I just wanted to let you know this is a recent development and I believe it has a place on the page. Here is a link to a page with numerous articles announcing this fact. http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=paris+hilton+overrated+celebrity&FORM=MSNH (For some reason, I cannot pull up the Guinness home page). Feel free to do what you will with this information.

One more thing: with the message I got came the comment below. Frankly, I have no idea what it has to do with me. I don't recognize it at all. Anything you could tell me to help with my contributions is welcomed, especially if it helps me remember changes I made that I forgot about.

"I removed Ms. B. w/o any misgivings about the decision being correct, but with regret at the necessity. I appreciate his sacrifices, and the fact that (tho indirect) hers may indebt me even further than his do. Lemme see if i can make up for it by being helpful with the article on his outfit. --Jerzy•t 02:18, 12 January 2006 (UTC)"

[edit] Wes Borland page

I took the link out because it is no longer active; I noted this in my edit summary. Sorry for not doing so the first time.

[edit] Regarding this edit

This is not an attack on Dunc, but an explaination for why he is seeking to overturn a long-standing Wikipedia guideline. Thus, it is quite relevant to the issue.

Among other abuses, ever since I got cross-wise with him on a site, Dunc has been chasing down all my postings he could find and then reverting them under the excuse of "vanity". This was because I cited my journal publications at arms length, as the rule allows. I cited this rule to him to get him to stop. Now, he seeks to change it. Pproctor 17:53, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Er, excuse me Hawker if I butt in and address Dr. Proctor here.
This is not a blog, and we do not sumbit "postings". It is an encyclopedia, and we collaborate on writing articles. Rules here do not "allow" us to do various things as much as they guide us to carry out the specific, narrowly-focused work of creating an encyclopedia.
If your journal publications are of general interest to our readers, I can probably find a way to list them properly. I could create a Peter Proctor article about you, assuming you are *ahem* "notable". --Uncle Ed 19:20, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
If the journal publications are in a recognised journal, surely they can be inserted? Niether party in this is free of blame, with Dunc abusing his rollback function and Pproctor being a bit iffy with references, but it's all getting out of hand. HawkerTyphoon 19:29, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Restoring vandalized versions of Khatri

IPKapoor is a vandal.

You have restored:

"The Khatris are a Sudra community "

and

This list with a large number of non-Khatri last names (they are jat last names) inserted:

Anand, Ahlawat,Alpials, Awal, Badhwar,Bahl, Bagga, Baijal, Bajwa (=Baswaal) ,Bakshi, Bangyaal,Bedi, Bhalla, Bhasin, Bhandari, Bindra, Chadha, Chandok, Chatta, Cheema, Chona, Chopra, Choudhary, Dahiya, Dalal, Deswal, Dhawan, Dhillon, Dhuhra, Dua, Duggal, Dhupar, Dumra, Gadhiok,Gatwallas, Ghai, Gill, Gandhi, Golia , Gondal, Gosain, Gujral, Gulla, Handa,Her, Jerath, Jairath, Jaggi, Jakhar,Joura, Kadian,Kakkar, Kapoor (Kapur), Kahlon, Kang, Khar (= Kher, Kharral) ,Khanna, Khosla, Khullar, Kochhar, Kohli, Koshal, Lajwa, Langah (= Langriwal), Lal, Lala, Lamba, Loomba, Madhok, Mahendru, Maini, Malhotra, Malik, Mankhand, Manraj, Mehra, Mehrotra, Mehta, Monga, Nair(Nayyar), Nayer, Nijhawan, Nikhanj, Oberoi, Ohri, Parwanda, Phull, Phul, Phool, Puri, Rai, Randhawa (= Ranjha), Rathi, Roshan, Sabharwal, Sablok, Saggar, Sahni, Sami, Sarin, Saroya,.Sehota, Sochi, Sukhera,Sehgal (Sahgal), Sekhri, Sethi, Seth, Sahrawat,Sial (Syal), Sibal, Sikka, Sobti, Sodhi, Sondhi, Soni, Suri, Talwar, Tandan (Tandon), Taror (= Tarraar and Tharthaal), Tehim, Thapar, Trehan, Uppal, Vadehra, Vig. Vij, Vinaik, Vohra, Wadhawan, Wahi (Wahie), Walia and Waraich (= Virk, Varya or Brar,).

Do you know what you are doing? Are you doing this intentionally?

--Vikramsingh 21:53, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cup of tea

Check this: [4]. Apparently ThePromenader is not interested in your cup of tea offering. Sigh... Hardouin 00:45, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Hardouin broke the WP:3RR rule fully aware that he was doing so. I had promised this contributor after breaking the rule once myself (in reversing this user's reverts) never to do so again, so it is only normal that I ask the same. The vehemence you witnessed was almost a year of accumulated anger at Hardouin's 'editing' tactics - I can't tell you how much time I have lost on/to Wiki because of this user's behaviour.
This time, the changes he reverted were discussed more than a week beforehand; the same chose not to pursue/comment this, so I went ahead with them. So after a week of silence, being reverted only minutes after I make the intended edits is also quite maddening. This behaviour is bullying and a form of article appropriation. I know I should have remained calm. Sorry I got heated, and sorry you had to witness that. thepromenader 07:23, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vanity commissar

I have placed a poll at Wikipedia talk:No original research concerning Dunc's attempt to make experts check in with the "Vanity Commissar" before citing their published works. I appreciate all support. Pproctor 00:44, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Game Maker Editing.

I would like to apologize for anything I did that would be considered Spam with regards to adding links to the Game Maker article. I was simply adding more to the games made with Game Maker section to expand the article. I probably should have got the hint not to add them over and over again but I am kind of new to the whole thing. I wont be anymore trouble though. I got the list of games from the Game Maker Community’s Staff’s choice so they should have been quality additions. Anyway sorry for the trouble I seem to have caused. I hope there are no hard feelings.

[edit] Hello

Hello, big boy,

This is a message to ask how you can say I 'vandalised' the Tony Blair Page. I know him personally and that is his favourite website.

I personally think you are jelous of my tight bond with Tony.

I await an apology from you, but I won't hold my breath as you are a little coward.

You should be ashamed, you silly little person.

Regards,

Tony Blair's pal.

[edit] In regards to PG Games

I've removed the proposal for deletion. Per the talk page there, use WP:AfD to generate a consensus since it appears the creator of the article has removed proposals twice already. Lankybugger 13:21, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

I've voted in favour of deletion. Lankybugger 18:59, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Well, friends, this is it...

I'll be moving to Connecticut tomorrow along with my family. I'll be leaving Wikipedia for a while until everything gets set up at our new home. It all depends on my Internet access, but I'll be seeing you in a week or two. Bye! --Slgr@ndson (page - messages - contribs) 01:48, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

Thankyou for considering me for a barnstar but if I am going to not accept you telling me off when I'm being grumpy (it really doesn't help), I shouldn't accept this either. — Dunc|☺ 10:50, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] paris hilton & youtube

I don't see why you remove youtube link from paris hilton article, it's linked from official site so it's the official youtube channel. You might as well remove imdb link then, what makes imdb so special? I did read WP:EL but also its discussion page where there seems no consensus on removing artists' official myspace links. I don't care about myspace, I added the link to youtube and you removed it and I brought it back. Thank you.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.240.145.86 (talk • contribs) .

[edit] Vaynol / Faenol etc

Hmm, there's no reference to either in the text as I read it in the text before my change. Is it worth piping a link from Faenol to the Vaynol page then? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.130.129.145 (talk • contribs) .

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