Talk:Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (film)

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Something wicked this way comes. Hmmm. Now where have I heard that before. Oh yeah, its the name of that famous Ray Bradbury book and movie. Also in Shaksphere's MacBeth.

(Should we link it to the MacBeth article? Actually... that article doesn't say anything about "double double toil and trouble")

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[edit] "Suggested" romance between Lupin and Sirius

User 68.45.87.14 maintains that the "Alterations from the Book" include a note reading "A romance is suggested between Remus Lupin and Sirius Black." His/her justification is as follows:

Which is why he [presumably Gary Oldman or David Thewlis] refered to Remus as "everyone's favorite gay uncle" in interview and in cast instruction, and approved the "married couple" line [a passing line said by Snape, where he describes Lupin and Sirius as "quarrelling like an old married couple"] and the lines about "this is not your heart" etc.... :P

What should be done about this?

[edit] One Other Acting Change

It is not important enough to force onto the main page, but there is one other acting change of note from the first film. The Fat Lady on the door of the Gryffindor wing of Hogwarts was played by Elizabeth Spriggs in the first film. In this movie Dawn French takes over the role.MarnetteD | Talk 22:33, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Additional text

A well-meaning newbie created a new page for this movie (adding a full stop to the title). Here is the text they created.

Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban is the third book and film of the Harry Potter series. Azkaban ( the name may be a parody of "Alcatraz") is the island prison where lawbreaking wizards (and often innocent wizards and witches who have been falsely accused and cleverly framed) are imprisoned and tortured by demons called Dementors. At the beginning of the story, Harry is imprisoned, as usual, at the home of his brutish foster parents, the Dursleys, who are visited by an obnoxious relative who insults Harry's dead parents with egregious insensitivity and cruelty. In his anger and his shame, Harry releases wild magic without consciously meaning to, and his evil aunt is blown up like a balloon and drifts, terrified, up into the air. Harry runs away from his "home" that is no home, and soon discovers the Magic Bus called the "Knight Bus." He also becomes acquainted with a colorful character called Stan Shunpike. The family name must be due to a propensity to run around turnpikes to avoid paying tolls. In the movie, but not the book, the Knight Bus is also home to a talkative shrunken head. The movie also boasts a rousing performance of "Double, double, toil and trouble," which was recorded by William Shakespeare in Macbeth but is now revealed to be an old traditional folk song of witches and wizards, older than Shakespeare. "Something wicked this way comes," the Hogwart's Choir (which exists in the movies but not the books) sings. The Ministry of Magic fears that Sirius Black, a convict escaped from Azkaban, is out to murder Harry. Because of this concern, the Ministry is quick to forgive Harry for the small matter involving his cruel aunt, whose situation is quietly and unobtrusively mended. Resuming his Magic studies, Harry is the first and only student to win the respect of Buckbeak the Hippogryph. The flight of this fabulous and fantastic (in every sense of these words) creature, with Harry on his back, over Hogwart's castle and over a magnificent lake, is one of the most exhilarating scenes in the history of cinema.

The new page has been deleted. Manning 00:05, July 21, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] "Deviations from the book"

This section is getting out of hand. Is it important that the backstory about Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot and Prongs isn't explained? Yes. Is it important that in the film Harry didn't get a chance to reply to Sirius' request to live with him? No. (Posted by User:67.171.180.209 11:04, 1 September 2005, Sign your posts on talk pages)

I disagree; Harry's anxious answer in the book made it clear he did not like the Dursleys; This section could be made into a seperate page, but not destroyed --Luckybeargod 19:57, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
I agree with the original poster that the section needs some work. I suggest some thoughtful condensing to combine some of the more complex changes. For example, the Three Broomsticks scene is simply staged differently between the book and the movie. And the numerous small changes to Lupin's boggart instruction. And the missing explanation about Moony, Wormtail, Proudfoot, and Prongs. Each of these topics is currently covered by multiple bullet points that are in random places in the list. We don't have to be held to list form. In cases like these, paragraphs would probably make more sense to a reader.
Wikibooks is the better place for an unabridged list of changes between the books and movies.
(Also: It's clear Harry doesn't like the Dursleys (he runs away at the beginning) and that he wants to go with Sirius (he tells him so near the end of the film).) --Mrwojo 03:34, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] "Professor Flitwick"

Should it be noted here that Professor Flitwick's appearance was changed drastically? I noticed it watching the fourth movie tonight, and though researched on the boards on IMDb. While in the first two movies, Flitwick was wrinkly and had white hair, in the third and forth he was younger, with black hair. Just a note that might wasnt to be added, either here (where the change first took place, not that I can recall seeing Flitwick in this movie) or on the page for GoF. - chicken_queen

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[edit] Criticism of the Film

I was wondering if it might be a good idea to have a section on criticism of the film, epecially since there was a new director and a new Dumbledore actor.

Disagree. In fact, I feel the article goes on about differences to the book and stuff that only harry potter fans actually care about too much. The majority of people who watched this film won't have read the book. Now, PS/COS definately had criticism aimed at them but PoA got good reviews. Criticisms such as "they didn't tell the marauders backstory" and such like are only issues with harry potter fans, and even then they really shouldn't be. Such backstory was not needed. Besides, in that instance it's hinted towards so often that most people can work it out. 82.6.67.134 09:56, 14 August 2006 (UTC)Cf

[edit] Plot Size

The plot size for this article is violating the standard summary for Wikipedia. The way to remedy this is merging the Plot and the Summary sections, and having about two paragraphs briefly detailing the main points of the story. If no one replies, I'll go ahead and make the changes. I want to make sure no one has a problem with it. - Raditzu 02:10, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Fine with me. We need a little bit about the plot and summary at least though. ForestH2 19:18, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Fine with me, Raditzu see Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone. The plot there is my suggestion for the plot here to take shape. Treebark 22:06, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Remember to use your spaces, people. I'll make the changes soon. - Raditzu 01:32, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Uh actully what do you mean spaces? I think we need to think about making the plot a little longer than the Goblet of Fire which should also be expanded. Treebark 14:37, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Read the third point. Anyway, I just rewatched POA so now I'll try to summarize it. Granted, it won't be perfect, but it's a start. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Raditzu (talk • contribs).

[edit] Ian Brown in the Film?

Hmm, maybe I just forgot, but I don't recall Ian Brown making a cameo in the film, reading A Brief History of Time in the Leaky Cauldron. Maybe the scene was deleted in the American version? Hmm... ←T•h•e R.S.J.→ 14:53, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

He was. When Harry meets Mrs. Weasley and Mr. Weasley in the Leaky Cauldron that's where Ian Brown is, I think. They are about to have a meal, and they are sitting down and I think I recall Ian coming into the picture, though I can't be sure. ForestH2 t/c 15:16, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
He is - the scene was not deleted - at least in the 2-disc widescreen DVD version. A screen shot of the scene is shown in the Trivia section of the main article. --T-dot 15:29, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
That's what I thought. ForestH2 t/c
Okay, I've seen the movie recently, and Ian Brown appears when Harry comes in the Leaky Cauldron after he gets off the Knight Bus... Thanks for clarifying this! — •The RSJ• (Main Hub - Rants) 02:51, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 2.35:1 -> 2.40:1 aspect ratio source

The following trivia point was recently added:

  • This was the first Harry Potter movie (and later Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire) to be filmed in 2.40.1 Widescreen. The First two were filmed in 2.35.1 Widescreen.

Do we have a source for this? According to aspect ratio (image)#Previous and presently used aspect ratios, "modern anamorphic productions are actually 2.39, but often referred to as 2.35 anyway, due to old convention" and that 2.39:1 is "Sometimes rounded up to 2.40." --Mrwojo 03:23, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

IMDb says all were in 2.35: PS, CoS, PoA, GoF. I've removed it from the article. --Mrwojo 04:31, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] candy

In a deleted scene, Harry, Hermione, and Ron are talking about Hogsmede, and Harry eats a Honydukes candy, but whilst he does, Ron says, "Don't! those make you--," and after Harry eats it he winces and laughs or something. Any idea on what it did to him? Therequiembellishere 23:33, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

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