Talk:Handsworth riots

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Can anyone substantiate the "dozens of shooting fatalities" claim? Andy Mabbett 07:39, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

This is after a brief specific search on Google for Handsworth, Birmingham, I don't think I wish to delve further into Handsworth's gruesome death toll, needless to say there are many more victims by the looks of things. I can personally remember when two police officers who were shot in a parked car in Handsworth, one man died. More disturbing seems to be the number of people who originate from Handsworth and who have used guns elsewhere.

although in 2002 it was strangely reported as the safest place to live in west midlans

prisontalk?

20-year-old was shot three times in an execution-style killing.

Corey Wayne Allen, who was shot with his own gun in Handsworth in 2000

1996, Burger Boy Jason Wharton was shot dead

Luton Crawford shot dead 2002

Three gunshot victims a week Aston, Winson Green, Newtown and Handsworth

A man was shot in the head in an attack in Handsworth, Birmingham.

A murder inquiry has been launched after a man was shot during an evening at a Birmingham community centre

A man was blasted in the leg by gun wielding robbers who forced him to hand over his mobile phone. The attack bears striking similarities to a recent armed robbery in Handsworth, but it was not yet clear if the cases were linked.

two guards, one a young woman, were kidnapped during an armed hijack outside a super-market in Handsworth.

An innocent householder was shot during a gun battle.

A post mortem examination carried out yesterday on 24-year-old Elijah Fagan revealed he died from a single gunshot, fired from a 9mm pistol, to the abdomen.

In 1997 several high ranking members if the Johnson Crew were jailed at Leicester Crown Court after DJ Jason Wharton was shot dead in his car in Handsworth

an array of guns that have been recovered by police as part of Operation Ventara - a crack-down on gangster crime.

A Birmingham man said to be a danger to the community has been jailed for life for shooting at a stranger with a ball-bearing firing gun.

Not all the incidents are happening in Handsworth, but there seems to be a common theme that a lot of the people involved do live in Handsworth.

A man was shot in the stomach in a terrifying Birmingham street attack

I would settle for something like "Handsworth has a history of Gangland crime involving firearms, with many shootings within the suburb and many gun crimes carried out elsewhere by people from Handsworth." - although I wouldn't wish to glorify the facts? Nick Boulevard 16:08, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

So, that's "no", then. Andy Mabbett 18:56, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

no that's "quite probable" then, personally I do not fancy delving any further into "how many people have been horrifically gunned down in Birmingham" on the net, I would say that gun crime was not really an issue as far as I am aware during the time of the Handsworth riots but more recently (i.e. since the 1990's) the area has had, as the reports state, a an extremely high proportion of criminals who have access to firearms and are prepared to use them than as say somewhere like Harborne or Selly Oak. I am confident that there have been "dozens of woundings from shootings" in the area since the early nineties. And possibly dozens of deaths resulting from shootings by people who have resided in Handsworth. You've asked the question Andy, I have shown you some research to suggest that the sentence should stay in some form if not on this page then maybe on the Handsworth page itself. Nick Boulevard 19:26, 7 August 2005 (UTC)