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Contents 1 Proof of Saber Competence 2 Spelling 3 "Lowest rank grade"? 4 "Shoots first" issue in Special Edition 5 New Picture 6 One question 7 C3PO 8 English Unit Height 9 Hattori Hanzo 10 Height Question 11 Galactic Empire 12 Han Solo trilogy?

[edit] Proof of Saber Competence

I would like to see supporting evidence for Han Solo's ability to use the lightsaber. As I am unfamiliar with the expanded universe, I do not know if it is in the books although I am assuming so since I don't remember Han ever showing interest in the Jedi arts throughout the movies. Could someone please provide an excerpt of the text where Han uses a lightsaber? --Crisco 1492 08:47, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

I am afraid I can't remember the exact book, but Solo does indeed use a lightsaber for cutting something, somewhere in the EU. So he can use a lightsaber w/o chopping off his hand, but that's not saying much, and whether or not it is relevant enough to keep in the article, I leave up to you. --Maru 16:14, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

I have decided to delete the reference until more evidence is found. Thanks for the speedy reply. Crisco 1492 18:17, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Not to be a pain or anything (not having read the original article) but, Han used a lightsaber to cut open a tauntaun in the movies (V to be exact). --70.105.68.30 23:38, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

...Now I feel very stupid. That was the exact thing I was trying to remember when I made my vague "somewhere in the EU" comment. Thanks, anon. --Maru (talk) 04:15, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

In a new book that came out three months ago, han uses a lightsaber to kill evil insectoid creatures.--Wookiebaca 23:20, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Han also used a lightsaber in Heir to the Empire. Will 06:17, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Han used the lightsaber of Luke to cut the animal he rode on for saving Luke in the beginning of Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back.--Mato Rei 10:54, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I was reading the book "The Art of Star Wars Episode IV A New Hope" and at the end there was a section of many movie posters released in various countries, as well as some comics as spinoffs. On the cover of one of the comic books they had displayed, Han said "Grab me a lightsaber, Chewey". He was in the middle of fighting off stormtroopers of something. This doesn't really help any of the ideas submitted above, and I'm no expert, having seen only the movies of the Star Wars saga and no extended thingys, but it is an interesting fact to add to this discussion I think.74.60.25.192 05:36, 9 December 2006 (UTC)Leia 22

[edit] Spelling

Before I write the Obiwan Kenobi article, anyone have a clear idea how to spell the old gent (I mean Jedi)'s name? --Ed Poor, Tuesday, June 11, 2002

See eg http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/obiwankenobi/index.html. It's Obi-Wan Kenobi. --Brion VIBBER

ISN'T IT JUST OBI-WAN KENOBI? Sorry for shouting, but it seemed obvious. 8 December 200674.60.25.192 05:37, 9 December 2006 (UTC)Leia 22

[edit] "Lowest rank grade"?

Why was Solo's commission "presumably to lowest grade"? --Meelar 02:11, 27 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Promotions in militaries are typically only done one rank at a time, so if Solo held a lower rank in the Rebel military and was then promoted to a generalship, he'd presumably start out at the lowest rank of general. But it's possible that Solo was promoted to fill a gap higher in the command structure. The Rebel Alliance military was always much less formalized than the Empire's, mostly due to necessity -- they had far fewer personnel, were more likely to make significant organizational changes, and were constantly shifting their order of battle as they moved from hidden base to hidden base. That said, I don't think this particular phrase is necessary in the article -- I don't know that there's any particular evidence of Solo's exact rank, nor do I think it especially matters, since Solo's operations as General were typically commando-style or special ops-style missions (although he did command a few battle fleets), and in the novels he's not presented as especially keen on being part of a rigid command structure (despite his time in the Imperial Navy). I vote that someone remove the phrase "presumably to lowest grade". --dirtside

Done. --Meelar 02:23, 27 Mar 2004 (UTC)

[edit] "Shoots first" issue in Special Edition

Some mention of the "Han Shoots First" issue may be appropriate here. I'd do it myself, but I'll have to research the details a little first. Anyone feel free to do it first.

I would argue that it is appropriate for these reasons (the following turned out long after I wrote it; sorry.)

1. Han Solo's character was immediately very popular; he might have been the most popular character excluding Luke Skywalker (or perhaps no excluding L.S.) when the original movie came out, although I probably can't back this claim up rigorously. Suffice to say, Solo was a favorite character of many fans.
2. Solo's popularity can be attributed to more than just Harrison Ford's performance, but specific attributes of the character of Han Solo, specifically, his independent, irreverant, rogish (sp?) qualities. Some scholars have identified Solo's character as example of a classic archetype, and attribute a deeper mythological meaning to his significant contributions to the rebel cause despite his lack of idealism.
3. The "Han Shoots First" issue involves an unpopular decision by Lucas to modify the original scene in which Greedo is shot by Han. In the modified version, Greedo fires first (missing at a ridiculously close range), and Han fires back afterwards, killing Greedo. Critics charge that, besides being an unwarranted modification of a classic film, the change is uncharactersitic of Solo. Lucas feels that Han shooting first makes Solo appear "cold-blooded". Critics of Lucas point at that that is exactly why it should be left unchanged; the dangerous "edginess" of Han is a big part of his character. (Besides, Han would be an idiot not to realize that Greedo was about to shoot him.)
4. In the (unlikely) event that the fact that the original version had Han shooting first becomes little known in decades to come, it would seem important that the fact be mentioned with reference to the character's history. The scene in question was the scene that introduced Han Solo as a character.

(In retrospect, perhaps the issue deserves a page of its own?? Nah. At most, it's worth one short paragraph.) --M. E. Smith

The swear words are gone. I thank who did this. I'll search for more swear words on Wikipedia, and revert them to earlier versions so nobody will be offended. --KFan II

Next time, see Wikipedia:How to revert a page to an earlier version --Brion

[edit] New Picture

How about a new pic of the real Han Solo (Harrison Ford) not the book one? --Anon.

That's done. --Maru 16:25, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] One question

How did Cheewbacca end up with Han solo, can someone tell me the story to it? --Pece Kocovski 05:59, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

Actually... good question. The Han Solo trilogy should answer this question but because of the old Han Solo in the Corporate Sector, there were three major ellipses in the trilogy to provide holes for them. Han is simply presented after one as having been expelled from the Imperial Starfleet when he intervened in a slave detail which was brutally, fatally abusing its Wookiees, thus saving Chewbacca's life. Whereupon Chewbacca insisted on a life-debt and the two began smuggling. That's all that really is known right now. Sorry if that isn't much help. --Maru (talk) 06:15, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] C3PO

I know this is a stupid question, but C-3PO is usually very helpful when it comes to fixing things WITHOUT R2 around. What does Han have against 3PO? [1]

He talks too much. 70.105.109.83 21:55, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] English Unit Height

I added in the English Unit Height next to the Metric Height for those not familiar with it. I am not sure how this will be taken, but it only adds to the information.

[edit] Hattori Hanzo

Any Japanese speakers in the house might help me here.

I read somewhere that Lucas is big on Japanese culture... here's an possible link. Coincidence?

Take the name of the 16th Century Japanese warrior (or the sword maker from Kill Bill)

Hattori Hanzo

Westernise the order of the names (flip it around)

Hanzo Hattori

Hattori sounds like Hitori

Hanzo Hitori

Hanzo sounds like Han

Han Hitori

Hitori is Japanese for alone, or solo!

Han Solo

If Lucas didn't commit it, it's your illusion. Han Solo is some pirate stuff, not martial art warrior. So he is not Hattori Hanzo but Jack Sparrow.

[edit] Height Question

Since there appears to have been vandalism regarding Han Solo's height, I thought it might be a good idea to ask what Harrison Ford's height was (during the movies to be precise in case it changed over the decades). Will 06:18, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Galactic Empire

In the Han Solo trilogy books, Han was in the Imperial Navy, so I added Galactic Empire as an affiliation

Eh, I wouldn't say he is really affiliated with the Empire. It's not what he's known for in the Star Wars universe, and he definitely isn't exactly a friend of the Empire. I'm going to revert. – Mipadi 01:35, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Han Solo trilogy?

Where do these books fit in his bio? I believe the last one is just prior to ANH—IIRC, Han mentions getting a loan from Jabba to attempt a smuggling run, probably the one that he had to dump thus incurring Jabba's wrath. I'll let someone with more knowledge fill this in, though. ⇔ ChristTrekker 21:03, 15 November 2006 (UTC)