User talk:Guyanakoolaid
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[edit] AFD and other contributions
Being new around here, you might want to consider that you aren't too familiar with the policies and guidelines, conventions, etc. to be passing judgment on articles at Wikipedia:Articles for Deletion. First off, whoever tallies the votes later probably will not take your vote seriously or give it much weight in considering the keep or delete simply because of your novice status. —ExplorerCDT 11:02, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
- Well, hi! And thanks for the welcome. I am indeed somewhat new, recently challenging deletion for the first article I wrote (and won), and became much more knowledgable about things, although admittedly not as knowledgable as you. Regardless, I will ignore your rude dismissal and continue to contribute as I see fit, judging articles in the future as I have done til now: strictly according to WP guidelines. If you see where I may have judged an article incorrectly, please let me know. Otherwise, the way I've read things, newbies are normally ENCOURAGED to get involved, even in AfD discussions. How else will they become something other than a newbie?Guyanakoolaid 09:47, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
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- I see your point and agree, however. You'll need a bit more experience in editing before some AFD counters will count your votes (far more than contributing to only two articles before jumping into the AFD waters). Forgive me if it may have been rude, but your insertion into the AFD in question, smacked of being ignorant of several policies and guidelines and the applications thereof. —ExplorerCDT 16:15, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/St. Clements University
Hi. I see you've weighed in on this AfD. I just noticed that TheronJ has substantially cleaned up the article, and I think St. Clements University is worth another look. Regards, William Pietri 06:33, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
- Be happy to rereview it, however it wasn't that it needed cleaning up as much as it was just an unaccredited diploma mill, and needed notability, which it completely lacked.66.201.16.35 06:53, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Highly controversial
Hi G., I'm a stickler for simple prose, especially in the lead. I thought it might be best that I just try to convince you directly. In the controlled demolition article you've put "a higly controversial proposition which suggests that"; I want it to say "the controversial proposition that". "Highly controversial" has an air of a great deal of public debate, i.e., that people on either side exchange views often. That doesn't strike me as accurate. An identifiable group of people is pursuing it; it sometimes makes for a sensational headline; but it is essentially ignored by those who disagree with it. Anyway, let me know what your reasons are for that adjective and what you think of my simpler version.--Thomas Basboll 07:16, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
- I looked at this, too. I think we need to get shorter and pithier still. I think every sentence in this article, which is way too long, needs to be treated on its merits. "The Controlled-Demolition Hypothesis proposes, controversially, ...". It is not highly controversial (see Thomas Basboll, above) but it is controversial. The article headline should not sensationalise it, for it is not sensational. It is simply a hypothesis which is notable, but really has no firm foundation in facts.
- Any edits should seek to shorten the article, not expand the phrasing Fiddle Faddle 07:24, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
- I agree on shorter, and the total edit is now just the one adjective. I really couldn't see how either side of the debate could argue that the subject is not controversial, even "highly" controversial. The debates on this subject are limited in number, but very heated, as many talk pages and AfDs show. But "controversial" in the intro definately helps frame the argument into (slightly) more NPOV. Guyanakoolaid 07:41, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
- The things we need to do, especially when removing POV is to be as even handed as possible. We also need to be clear on the difference between a "Wikipedia controversy" such as an AfD, and a "Real World controversy". Each has different characteristics. A Wikipedia controversy is a storm in a teacup - violent, squally, and limited in scope. The AfD on this article was one such storm. The real world was unaffected and not interested. For the real world it was "yet another darned quack hypothesis" (if it even noticed it). That quack hypothesis is not unheard of here in the UK, but we don;t care about it at all, except to laugh at our US friends and remind them that the word 'gullible' is being removed from US dictionaries.
- So we must be vigilant that we neither overplay nor underplay what is controversial. My preference is to avoid anything that brings a comparative to words like 'controversy', since it is a binary thing. It is, or is not a controversy. Fiddle Faddle 07:54, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Image:The joggers.jpg
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