User talk:Gurkhaboy

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[edit] Welcome! to Wikipedia!

Hello Gurkhaboy, this is Exir Kamalabadi, and I hope that you are having fun with Wikipedia. First of all, welcome to Wikipedia! Find something that can be improved, either in content, grammar or formatting, then fix it. Don't be afraid. Be bold! If you do something wrong, there is always someone who will clean up the mess.

Here are some links that you may find helpful:

Here are also some tips that you might find useful:

Finally, feel free to leave me a message on my talk page when you need help!

Exir KamalabadiJoin Esperanza! 01:30, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gurkhas

Thanks for clarifying the connection between Gurkhas and the Gorkha province in Thailand. Before I changed it to my incorrect claim that it was coincidental, there was a completely opaque and nonsensical analogy to the name of Singapore, which didn't explain anything. I suspected that the issue might be that the province was named for the people, but wasn't sure. Anyway, thanks for making all clear on that front. john k 04:34, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Rajputs/Is nothing sacred

In general, Wikipedia is not a good place for the sacred. You may believe something with every fibre of your being – and perhaps you may even be right – but if another group or party disagrees with you, Wikipedia is not going to take sides. What we do is report that group X says this, but group Y says that. The point is that there will be a presentation of the discussion on all sides – and if you think that group Y's evidence is flawed, you can point out the ways in which it is. And group Y will do the same to you. But the concept of an ultimate truth is foreign to Wikipedia, and so (most crucially) is the idea of anything being too sacred to be critically examined. QuartierLatin 1968 15:46, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your questions, and your kind comments. I admit that I haven't followed the debate on the Talk: Rajput very closely; I have focused mainly on the historical narrative, and left the questions of identity for others. As someone of Yugoslav ancestry, I know that debates on questions of identity often generate more heat than light, and rarely have clear answers; a forum like Wikipedia can present opposing viewpoints on heated questions, but is unlikely to be able to finally resolve or reconcile them.
As to your question, "Does Wikipedia simply allow anyone to put stuff up even if its not backed by authentic academic knowledge or research?" the answer is yes and no: yes, anyone is allowed to make edits, but no, information shouldn't be presented as fact if it is of dubious authenticity or is contradicted by credible evidence, and statements presented as facts should not be allowed to stand if they are demonstrably false. However I am certainly not the best informed on this; there is more information about Wikipedia policies at Neutral point of view, No original research, and Resolving disputes.
Wikipedia is also a forum where virtually everything held sacred to virtually anyone can and will be rigorously examined and thorougly questioned. My outsider's view of the current dispute is that if the parties are looking to the Rajput article to validate their personal sense of their Rajput identity, then the other party is bound to be unhappy. If one's Rajput identity is threatened by Muslims claiming to be Rajputs, while another's Rajput identity is threatened by the assertion that one cannot be both Muslim and Rajput, then this is a question that a wikipedia article is unlikely to resolve, although the article can — and, I think, should — explain the differing views on this question. Tom Radulovich 00:42, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Neutrality of the Rajput article

Thanks again for your kind comments. As far as the NPOV tag goes, It was Wisesabre who put the tag up, after the Muslim Rajput clans were removed from the list. He asked that these clans be added back to the article, possibly in a separate list of Muslim Rajput clans; reading through the comments on the talk page, It wasn't clear how that issue got resolved, or whether it was resolved to Wisesabre's satisfaction. You could ask Wisesabre directly, or I could ask him if you like.

I am still concerned about the history; there are still two these two separate sections, and the "Battles between Rajputs and Muslims" section still has an air of "How the muslims played dirty tricks against the Rajputs and coveted their women". That said, there is a good deal of useful information mixed in that needs to be edited, or added to other articles in the instances there is too much detail for this one.Tom Radulovich 16:19, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] just wana know !

hi,
I read your comments at [[User talk:Tom Radulovich], i just wanted to know that how you figured out my name? الثاقب (WiseSabre| talk) 18:00, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] reply

Thanks for the reply

  • I couldnt understand why islam could not have cast's, Prohphet Muhammad(saw) is Qurashi, even the non muslims at that time belived that.
  • Yeah cast system is well rooted in Pakistan, Unfortunately we still have alot of Hindu flavor in our lives (majority of ppl dnt marry outside there cast, which is not islamic)
  • No religion owns any cast, does converting to any religon changes your father?
  • anyways im fed up with this discussion as now you are preparing more arguments, enough is enough, please be polite, I haven't stolent anything of yours.

الثاقب (WiseSabre| talk) 09:30, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Jodhabai

Gorkhali,

Thanks for your kind words, and for the book suggestions. I am not an expert, but it is also my understanding that Jodhabai was a Kachwaha, and the sister of Man Singh. I think I changed a category on the Janjua article a while back, but you should feel free to correct the reference to Jodhabai as you see fit. Tom Radulovich 21:05, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Gurkha

I am happy to help you with any problems you have in Wikipedia's common practices and policies, or whatever else (I know it can be confusing and everyone was new once). I'd like to point out two things that you may not know. We have a policy, that's really an ingrained cultural practice, called "assume good faith." It's basically this: this is an encyclopedia, and nearly everyone is here to help build an encyclopedia– a neutral, comprehensive, trustworthy encyclopedia. Whatever you may perceive as hostility, or any kind of bad faith, it is best to assume that it was a good faith attempt to help, and conflicts will resolve themselves much easier. In this case, it is best not to take any NPOV dispute personally, or think that someone has an agenda, but take them at their word, and you may find you missed something. When someone says an article is NPOv, the claim should be examined from their perspective; it is in no way a weapon. This brings me to our NPOV policy. One of the subtle things that people tend not to catch is that NPOV demands that we neutrally document all points of view, even those we feel to be wrong or even disproven (i.e., to an evolutionary scientist, creationism is unprovable, but both points of view are documented). I think simply striving for both of these may lead to a resolution.

I am not sure I can address the content issues of the article (being myself not knowledgeable in the area) but I can't stress enough that reasoned discussion is always the way to go. Now I wasn't sure what specific help you were asking for, so this may not help at all. Tell me if you had some specific type of help in mind. And I assure you, Wikipedia does welcome honest experts, and you specifically. Dmcdevit·t 21:09, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

I also wanted to let you know that I contacted Bhadani, an editor for whom I have much respect, as he will be much more kowledgeable in the subject area, and orting through POV. Good luck. Dmcdevit·t 19:29, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Rajput

This is a response to the extended diatribe that you left on my talk page.

Even during recruitment, the British looked at the Muslim Rajputs as an inferior breed since they were seen as not having the same stock or fighting spirit as the Hindu or Sikh Rajputs.

With this quotation, you have proven the point of your opponents:

Rajputs are followers of all four major religions of the sub-continent Hinduism, Islam, Christianity and Sikhism.

So I must thank you for ending the debate in their favor. — goethean ॐ 14:52, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

From Khurram

I totally respect your views but would like to clear a few things. If we talk about that being a Rajput means that you believe in traditional Hindu Jati system (some are superior and some are inferior just by birth) then surely Islam does not have any place for this. I have talked with many Sikh and Hindu Rajputs/Jatts and they too say that they don't believe in the traditional Jati system and that all the people are equal. Do they also disqualify for being a Rajput? Islam, however, does not stop anyone from being proud of its lineage as long as it does not mean following any unislamic way. The way we Muslim Rajputs see the matter of being a Rajput is that it is the blood that runs in your veins and characteristics that you are told of. I accept that the Hindu Rajputs do have all the right to negate this idea but I think so do the Muslim Rajputs. Also about the argument of thinking of Hindu Rajputs as superior and Muslim Rajputs as inferior, I think most of the British army was composed of Rajputs of the areas of Jehlum, Chakwal and Rawalpindi districts and the first one from the sub-continent to win a Victoria Cross was a Muslim Rajput of Zafarwal. The same legend, we the Muslim Rajputs of Pakistan, carry in the Pakistan Army today. It is however pleasant reading the term "Muslim Rajputs" from you and I think it speaks a lot of itself.

I admit that I have never read the book that you have mentioned but I will try to grab a hold of it. But similarly I think there are many books dating as far back as 1800 that categorize Muslim Rajputs as Rajputs and there was not dispute to that in those times. As far as your Muslim friends are concerned, I don't know where they are from and in what respect did they pass that comment. What I do know is that in both India and Pakistan, there has been a lot of distortion of information to support religious rhetoric and today it is hard to dig down the truth in that fog of mutual haterd.

The point that Raja and myself were trying to make was:

1. We the Muslim Rajputs of Pakistan carry the same blood as our Hindu counter parts and belong to the same tribe. By the definition of tribe we mean "Who your father is" and the traditions that you receive from your fore-fathers. These traditions are not descended through your religion but through your lineage. That is whay Rajputs of Pakistan are though to be brave and esteemed because this is how they are being brought up for centuries.

This is our view about being a Rajput.

What I have understood from your post and that of others is that the only thing that disqualifies people from being Rajput is embrassing Islam since there are many Hindu Rajputs who don't believe in caste system and many who don't believe in Hinduism. There were many great Hindu Rajput kings who spent their lives against the teachings of Hinduism and the code of Rajputs but we don't see them being denied of their title of a Rajput. We even see Sikhs being categorized as Rajputs although their religion is as opposing to the Verna System as Islam is.

Who else can know the importance of a uniform criteria about an evaluation beter than yourself and I think you owe one to yourself and to those who will come after you.

خرم Khurram 15:48, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

It was nice to receive your latest message about Gurkha and Rajputs. I shall try to understand the issues. As regards, your credentials and such things, please donot worry - we all assume good faith here. And, about mistakes also, please do not worry: everyone was new once upon a time. Have a nice time. --Bhadani 10:17, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

hi, I was a bit busy and hence I could not talk with you. I find, a lot of issues have been raised about a matter which is very clear. Perhpas, some people may not be aware that Gurkhas are a distinct people, with a long and glorious heritage and history. Actually, I would love to associate with you in further expanding the article. The article has all the potential to mature and become a featured article. We shall inter-act more. Thanks for drawing my attention. I have also seen earlier Rajput article, I will see it more carefully now. --Bhadani 16:24, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] 29 October 2005 Delhi blasts

Please do contribution at 29 October 2005 Delhi blasts.
- P R A D E E P Somani (talk)
Feel free to send me e-mail.

[edit] Hi Gorkhali

Hi Gorkhaboy... we got lotsa Gorkhas at my town Sandhurst. Well it seems the unpleasent edit-war at Rajput articleis finally comming to conclusion.

Can you help in removing anti-Hindu bias in Wikipedia articles, particularly on those dealing with Islamic India? I'm not a Hindutva whacko like Vikrant but still i believe we must tell the truth.

AMbroodEY 16:17, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wishes

I saw you several times while going round to wish. I wish you and your family a Merry Christmas and a happy New Year. --Bhadani 16:12, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the greetings. Actually, I want to improve the Gurkha article - it will take time, but I shall surely do that -and please continue with wikipedia: it an exciting way to do something constructively. Thanks.

[edit] Yes

Kunwarji 23:32, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Rajput article arbitration committee

Dear Gorkhali,

They've put up an arbitration committee for Rajput article. Please give your evidence at: [1]

AMbroodEY

[edit] Barnstar

I am happy that you awarded me a barnstar – thanks for this New Year Gift: though I feel I do not deserve this – it is my duty as a wikepedian to write the truth. As regards the Gurakha article and related issues, I am sure that we the wikipedians shall make that article to reach the level of a featured article – please have patience, Gurakhas have a long history and heritage, well recognized and documented. Wikipedians collectively contribute to make this article one of the best. Again, I wish you and your family a fine new year. --Bhadani 17:42, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Rajput

A final decision has been reached in this case and it has been closed.

For the arbitration committee. --Tony Sidaway 21:58, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gurkha

Hello Sumerendra, I wish you all the best for your examinations, and I shall keep a watch over the page Gurkha. Let other users do the edits, and we shall copyedit and further expand the page, removing inappropriate facts, if any. Please do not worry – I shall work along with you to do justice to the contents of this page - the page has the potential to become a featured article. --Bhadani 13:42, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rajput

Well regarding the Rajput article, i was indeed unfortunate that someone of you expertise and qualifications was banned. I'm keeping a watch on the article to make sure that it doesnt deviate too much from truth! I've important exams this year hence wont be fully active but still email me for any help. Btw i've helped start an organisation called Dharma Rakshkas UK with Vikrant (the guy who referred you to me!). We'll make sure Wikipedia doesnt descend into anti-Hindu propoganda.

P.S As for that quote, i may be able to take a pic of the Gurkha memorial. Isnt it near Whitehall, London..? अमेय आर्यन DaBroodey 09:32, 1 March 2006 (UTC)


[edit] RE:Advice

Sure, I'll offer any advice or help if I can. What did you need exactly? KnowledgeOfSelf 05:21, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I don't really know what I can do to help, the advice below is good so you might want to persue that course of action. KnowledgeOfSelf 10:52, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Ediotrs bullied by Islamists category

I dont think it is a good idea. I've seen too many people getting banned on charge of Islamophobia. One of my personal friends has been given a two year ban! As for getting un-banned 1.) You can request an admin to un-ban you or put up an RfC (Request for Comments) where people will decide whether you can get unbanned. Though you can anonymously edit Rajput article; i dont suggest using socket puppets. अमेय आर्यन DaBroodey 05:21, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your message

Thank you for your note. I'm sorry to hear about the problems you've been having. I'm not familiar with the case, but I'll take a look at it over the next couple of days, and if I can see a way in which you might rehabilitate yourself, I'll try to make some suggestions to you. In the meantime, be sure to edit in accordance with our policies and guidelines, and try to avoid disputes. The more cooperative and collaborative you are, the more likely the arbcom is to listen to any appeal you might make in future. SlimVirgin (talk) 16:09, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanx

Thank you very much, Sumerendraji. I really appreciate it, and hope that my future contributions to the Rajput page will also meet with your approval. Regards, ImpuMozhi 02:16, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Holi greetings

Hi, I am wishing you a happy Holi, the unique Hindu celebration of color and brotherhood among all members of the humanity. The festival falls on 15th March 2006. I have collected A Gift Pack of Quotations for you contained in the sections Do things Differently & Something More , which are part of the on-going discussion pertaining to my nomination of Idleguy for adminship. You are aware of the tradition that if you throw colored water on flames of burning Holika, you enable a Prahlad to emerge from the flames!!! I again convey Holi greetings to you and your family!!! --Bhadani 14:33, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rajput

Gorkhali,

Thanks for your message on my "talk" page. Sorry you got tarred with the same brush as Shivraj and his cadre. I confess I am losing interest in editing articles on Indian history here on Wikipedia; there are too many cranky writers and too much chauvinism, revisionism, and bad prose to deal with, so writing articles on natural history and geography seems more productive and enjoyable. Unfortunately, folks are still edit warring over Rajput; I will have a closer look at the article when the dust settles. Best, Tom Radulovich 20:52, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Commenting

I finally got around to commenting to you on my talk page. I didn't even notice it. - nathanrdotcom (T • C • W) 21:58, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fundy Watch

Well i've created a sort-of-common message board for editors who think that they are being bullied by Islamists. Please leave a message at User:AMbroodEY/Fundy_Watch if you have any problems with them.

अमेय आर्यन DaBroodey

[edit] Thanks

Chauhanji

Thanks for the barnstar, my first! We gotta keep fighting. Many people are becoming disillusioned with Wikipedia with the arrival of Jihadi thrang here. But then, theres no point in quitting, we gotta fight it. Wikipedia already is being considred a credible source with offline DVD versions being prepared now. Guess what would happen if they unwittingly put a distorted version of our History on a DVD?

अमेय आर्यन DaBroodey 05:50, 10 March 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Kalyug

Sumerji, it is really disgusting the comments on you and family. But it is also in character, as you can see from the abuse I am suffering. With this culture and education, people feel equipped to write complex histories! The glory of rajput history shines on its own strength -- it needs no assistance from uneducated bombast or abuse of others. Some people hate muslims, others hate jats -- its a madhouse. Thank you for the encouragement on Rajput. The work is far from done, and I will try my best in future also, but the atmosphere is very non-conducive.

No, I did not write the page on Rajmata Scindia. If I understand right, her grandfather Khadga SJBR and your own great-grandfather were 1st cousins, is it not? Both being nephews to Jang Bahadur Kunwar. Please confirm and let me know exact details -- I'm fascinated by genealogy. I'm wondering if you are related to the Lambagraon family, since Dhwaj SJBR's daughter was wed there. What is the connection with Nabha/Patiala? Two grand-daughters of late HH Mysore are also wed into Nabha. My best regards, ImpuMozhi 02:19, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Relations

Sumerji, I am busy preening and congratulating myself on hitting the bullseye regarding your immediate relatives -- ain't I clever? But of course, I had a lot of help from your postings. You belong to a hoary lineage and extensive family, and can be justly proud of that. Please accept my felicitations. Indeed, if you count the whole Rana family, there is scarcely a royal house that you are not connected with.

I now understand that "3rd prince of Nabha" refers to a brother (not son, as I thought) of the present HH Nabha. So is his wife your 3rd cousin? I'm wondering if her name is Usha RLD or something else. Is she not a sister of the present Maharani of Jaisalmer (another 3rd cousin to you?) You don't say -- and furthermore, the "3rd prince" is the younger brother of Vasundhara Raje Scindia's husband -- her own devar. Am I getting it all wrong? Again, you mention that your mother's bua was HH Patiala's maami. Was her sister (your other grand-bua) married to Rana Hark Jung? I suppose I must be giving too much trouble, but I do look forward to hearing from you, this is vastly interesting to me. Regards, ImpuMozhi 05:56, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Gorkhali, if you ever start an article on Maharaja Bhupinder Singh of Patiala, can you please leave a message on talk page. Tintin (talk) 06:20, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Siddqui RfC

I've filed an RfC against Siddiqui. Please support it by endorsing the RfC at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Siddiqui

अमेय आर्यन DaBroodey 08:25, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Point

Sumerji, I now better understand the implication of the point you made about rajputs not being a race but a caste. This point is that the "lineage" argument, claiming that converts remain rajputs by "lineage", cannot hold because there is no such commonality of blood among standard rajputs anyway. A subtle argument, and worthy of debate, but I do not forsee the faintest chance of any such civilized debate taking place. Atmosphere is vitiated -- the trolls are very persistant, and don't have appreciation for the genuine work that is going on. Maybe being too close to the subject impacts adversly upon the capacity to write upon it. Still, I am sure the article will pick up eventually. Good to know about your family. Why I asked a second time about the name was because I thought it should be Rani Uma RLD, but I can see I was mistaken. Totally irrelevant, anyway. Regards, ImpuMozhi 19:09, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Sumerji, this is a totally Indian thing to happen -- I myself had a distant grand-aunt, very elderly, who was universally referred to as Kittamma-garu (ji). Now this is not an impossible name to have (but very old-fashioned), so I did not think of questioning it. Suddenly one day, I discovered that her actual name was Krishnaveni!! So it happens all the time in India.
I am presently working on Rajmata Vijayraje Scindia. I went to that page after you asked me about it, and found ample scope for improvement. I have based my additions on her autobiography (written with Manohar Malgaonkar). Please read it and tell me if personal details are accurate and whether any amendmants are needed. Regards, ImpuMozhi 21:59, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rajput

The statement is quite meaningless. "who do not normally intermarry with Hindus or Sikhs of any caste" - of course not, they are muslims! "but who may intermarry with Muslims of any caste" - naturally, they are muslims and will marry other muslims, no question of "Caste". "although they usually tend to marry other Muslim Rajputs." Again, unsurprising. In all events, the statement concerns the traditions of Muslim Rajputs and is meant for that page. The entire Rajput page needs copy-edit, and I will take care of it when I am able. Regards, ImpuMozhi 00:58, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gaddi

I am working on the 'communities' section on Rajput. Mention of muslim-rajputs is of course necessary, but I feel that other non-traditional rajputs, such as Girasias, can also find mention. You are from HP, can you tell something about Gaddi (ethnic group)? The page says that they can be brahmins, rajputs ... I have never heard of them. Please advise. Regards, ImpuMozhi 15:52, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Hawkraj

I read the disgusting comments by hawkraj about you. Such imbelciles are found everywhere. He might be one of our pseudo-secular zombies. Nee-ways i see that you are distnatly related to Marathas! Though Sindhias are not my clansmen Vikrant is a half-Maratha(Sindhia) from Gwalior.... अमेय आर्यन DaBroodey

Many thanks from ImpuMozhi
Many thanks from ImpuMozhi

[edit] Believe it or not

Sumerji, Will you please believe me when I say that I until a few minutes ago, I had no inkling that you had awarded me a Barnstar?? God is my witness, this is the case. I never scrolled down to that part of the page, and no message reaches me for changes made to my user-page. You will believe that I would have immediately said my thanks to you if I had known!

I especially treasure this barnstar since it comes from a person of your background, for work I have done regarding a matter that is so personal to you. I feel vindicated in my work, if it receives your approbation. Thank you very much for this reassurance, more than for the Barnstar. My best regards, ImpuMozhi 13:57, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Sumerji, nobody seems to have tasted the intended flavour of my comment regarding Jehangir. My observation may be read, I put it to you, as an allusion to the absurdity of the MR argument. I now realize that not many people may read it like that, and if protests continue, I have no objection to removing the sentence. Also, while rajputs are strongly patrilineal (as I mention in the section on clans), the MR's definitely are not, and my statement referred to MRs's, not standard rajputs. And indeed, I have made explicit mention that Mewar stood out and did not ally with the mughals. I thank you for the support and constructive suggestions and for helping me on the page. Again, there is much work to be done on the page, and I will do it whenever time permits. Regards, ImpuMozhi 18:38, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My talkpage

Sumerji, I left this message on my own talkpage just now, but I am going to archive that page (too long), so I refer you to it. I am sorry for this episode. Best regards, ImpuMozhi 00:07, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Frats

No, I'm not a Sigma Chi. I'm not part of any frat, in fact. Someone submitted the Sigma Chi creed as a separate article, and I felt it would be better merged in, that's all. DS 12:10, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sigma Chi...

Yup. I sure am, yourself? Batman2005 22:14, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

If you're interested in other Wikipedians who are in Sigma Chi, you might consider starting a new sub-category of Category:Wikipedians by fraternity and sorority. Other people might look for such a category, but not feel like (or not know how to) create it. If it's already there, you increase your chances of getting people in it. You can then put it on your user page (with [[Category:Category:Sigma Chi Wikipedians]]) so others can find you. You could even link to it in a See also section on the bottom of the Sigma Chi article. And just an FYI, no I'm not. bmearns, KSC(talk) 19:10, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

No problem. To create the category, just click on this link: Category:Sigma Chi Wikipedians and type in a brief description of the category. Then place [[Category:Wikipedians by fraternity and sorority]] at the bottom of the page, and save it. To add yourself to the category, just place [[Category:Sigma Chi Wikipedians]] at the bottom of your user page. B.Mearns*, KSC 20:06, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
In Hoc; I made a Sigma Chi userbox that includes putting that user in the category; feel free to use it: {{User Sigma Chi}} Scoutersig 15:54, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

I am glad you fel so, Sumerji...I cannot keep away for long, but it is good to take a break occasionally. Thank you also for your previous kind message. We should certainly collaborate on other pages -- I recently came across an already existing page on Maharaja Ganga Singh, maybe you can add a picture? I plan to clean up Jung Bahadur in the next few days. There is so much we could do in pursuance of your proposal. Best regards, ImpuMozhi 14:45, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sig

Iota Gamma Chapter, Jacksonville University. You? ASigIAm213 20:35, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Beta Theta Chapter, University of Pittsburgh. I'm trying to round up Sigs on Wikipedia to figure out someway to make it so only Sigs can edit the Sigma Chi page. I spoke to Eric Bolt from HQ earlier today and he said it was a good idea. If you can, help contact other Sigs you know on Wikipedia. In Hoc! Acidskater 6 December 2006

[edit] Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #1

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[edit] Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #2

The Barnstar Brigade is a new program aimed at giving more very deserving yet unappreciated users barnstars. It will officially start on 2006-04-09, but signing up is encouraged before this date:
"Here in Wikipedia, there are hundreds of wikipedians whose work and efforts go un-appreciated. One occasionally comes across editors who have thousands of good edits, but because they may not get around as much as others, their contributions and hard work often go un-noticed. Sadly, these editors often leave the project. As Esperanzians, we can help to make people feel appreciated, be it by some kind words or the awarding of a Barnstar. A project the size of Wikipedia has thousands of editors, so there are plenty of people out there who deserve recognition, one just has to find them. The object of this program is not to flood editors with Barnstars, but to seek out people who deserve them, and make them feel appreciated."
The Stress alerts program aims at identifying users who are stressed, alerting the community of thier stress and works in tandem with the Stressbusters at trying to identify causes of stress and eliminating them.
Information
Welcome to the second issue of the new format Esperanza Newsletter - we hope you still like it! This week, it was delivered diligently by our new dogsbody. MiszaBot (run by Misza13): any execution complaints should go to him. Content comments should be directed at the Esperanza talkpage. Thanks!
  1. The next elections: Approval voting as before and, also as before, an previous leadership member can run. Please submit your name for voting in the relevant section of this page. Voting starts on 2006-04-23 and ends on 2006-04-30. There will be three places up for grabs as KnowledgeOfSelf is leaving Wikipedia. Please see the previously linked page for full details.
  2. The Code of Conduct is now ready for extensive discussion! Specific comments should go to the Code of Conduct talk page, discussion of having one at all should be directed to the main Esperanza talk page.
  3. The current process for accepting proposals for new programs has been deemed fine. All Advisory Council members and the Admin Gen are to endevour to be bold when viewing discussion. If they feel that consensus has been reached, they will act accordingly.
A plea from the editor...
The propsed programs page is terribly underused! Please leave any comments, good or bad, on the page, to help us determine the membership's thoughts on the ideas there.
Signed...
Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, KnowledgeOfSelf and FireFox 19:53, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gurkha statue

Hi mate i've added the pciture of statue and the incription to Gurkha article. It took me a special trip to London and 2 hrs to locate it!

Cheers

अमेय आर्यन DaBroodey 19:33, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Old Skool Esperanzial note

Since this isn't the result of an AC meeting, I have decided to go Old Skool. This note is to remind you that the elections are taking place now and will end at 23:50 UTC on 2006-04-29. Please vote here. Thanks. --Celestianpower háblame 20:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #3

The Administrator Coaching program is a program aimed at preparing Wikipedians for Adminship or helping them understand the intricacies of Wikipedia better. Recently, changes have been made to the requirements of coachees. Please review them before requesting this service.
This would be something like the Welcoming Committee, but for people who have figured out the basics of editing articles; they're not newcomers any more, but they might want some help in learning new roles. Some might like suggestions about how to learn vandal patrol, or mentoring on taking an article to featured status, or guidance with a proposal they plan to make at the Village Pump, for example. In this way, Esperanza would help keep hope alive for Wikipedia because we would always be grooming the next generation of admins.
Stressbusters
The Stressbusters are a subset of Esperanza aiming to investigate the causes of stress. New eyes on the situation are always welcome!
Note from the editor
As always, MiszaBot handled this delivery. Thank you! Also, congratulations go to Pschemp, Titoxd and Freakofnurture for being elected in the last elections! An Esperanzial May to all of the readership!
  1. Posting logs of the Esperanza IRC channel are explicitly banned anywhere. Violation of this rule results in deletion and a ban from the channel.
  2. A disclaimer is going to be added to the Esperanza main page. We are humans and, as such, are imperfect.
  3. Various revisions have been made to the Code of Conduct. Please see them, as the proposal is ready to be ratified by the community and enacted. All members will members to have to re-confirm their membership after accepting the Code of Conduct.
  4. Referendums are to be held on whether terms of AC members should be lengthened and whether we should abolish votes full stop.
  5. Admin Coaching reform is agreed upon.
Signed...
Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, Pschemp and Freakofnurture
20:29, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Hi

Good to see you back! ImpuMozhi 14:19, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Me too. --Bhadani 16:08, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

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