Talk:Guru Nanak Dev
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[edit] Hari Singh's layout suggestion
May be we should first decide on the main sub-sections that we should include in the article and then see how we can work on these sub-sections. My suggestion is:
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- 1. Background
- 2. Philosophy
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- 2a. The Three Pillars of Sikhism
- 2b. Other Beliefs and Contributions
- 2c. Main Banis contributed to SGGS
- 3. History
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- 3a. Childhood
- 3b. Marriage and Early Adulthood
- 3c. Four Journeys
- 3d. Settlement in Kartarpur
- 3e. Death
- 4. Impact on Society
- 5. What others have said about Guru Nanak
- 6. Folklore - Sakhis
- 7. See also – other internal Links
- 8. External links
- 9. References
Copied from [1]. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 00:10, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Page Move
I think this page is probably best moved to Nanak for neutrality reasons. What do people think? Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 00:11, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
- I would recommend not using honorifics such as dev and ji in the names of articles, but, IMHO, titles such a Guru belong with the personal name of historical figures when the title is of such historical significance to the identity of that person. It's a common practice in English encyclopedias (see, for instance, Pope John I, King Arthur, Saint George, & Kublai Khan). —OneMansOpinion 01:03, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Useful resources
I've got "The Sikh Religion - Its Gurus, Sacred Writings and Authors." which includes a good few hundred pages on the life of the Guru. I've also got "The Adi Granth - or the Holy Scriptures of the Sikhs" which includes two different Janamsakhis. Also Puratan Janamsakhi is available in Punjabi here: [2].
As most of Guru Nanak's history is based on the Janamsakhis, we must include a prefatory mark saying it's not known whether what they say is true. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 00:21, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
- Some info on the Janamsakhis: http://www.globalsikhstudies.net/pdf/janamsakhi.pdf Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 00:40, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Guru Nanak's education
Just a reminder for later to add this in:
There is also proof from the satisfactory internal evidence of his own compositions that Guru Nanak studied the Persian language. Kalu felt that the society of religious men was not likely to advance his son's secular interests. Rai Bular promised that if Nanak learned Persian, in which all state documents and accounts were then written, he would appoint him village accountant in succession to his father. Persian was never the tongue of Hindus, and was despised by them as the language of foreigners and conquerors and of impure Musalman literature;[1] but Hindus in the age of Nanak applied themselves to it as they do now--for the simple purpose of obtaining a livelihood. Nanak soon astonished his Persian as he had previously astonished his Hindu teacher. In reply to Rukn-ul-Din's injunctions he assumed the rôle of teacher in turn and composed the following acrostic on the letters of the Persian alphabet
[1. In the institutes of Parâsar there is found an injunction not to speak the language of the inhabitants of Yavan--a word which originally meant Greece, but was afterwards applied to Arabia--even though it save life from issuing by the throat. Parâsar possessed the Hindu abhorrence of strange countries and gave expression to it. His words are now understood by the Hindus to refer to the language of the Musalmans, though there were no Musalmans for centuries after his time.]
[edit] Removal of a para
I removed "During one of his travels...". This came in with [4] and has been eroded since. Apologies if this causes offence, but this section is surely better without it. Perhaps the original story could be reincorporated into the article in another place by someone who knows Sikhism better than I. AWhiteC 22:07, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] number of gurus
i've noticed that on all the guru pages it says '...of ten gurus' should it not be of eleven gurus?
[edit] birthday wrong
Noticed that at the top of the page it indicates Guru Nanak's birthday is the 20th of October. However, further down the page under "Background" it lists his actual birthday of 5th November. Can this please be corrected.
Someone put (gay) in brackets. How do you report vandalism? Dave the Brave 01:28, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Photo Incorrect
DEar Sir/Madam
I realise that i did write that message a few times. I am speaking on behalf of The Sikh Federation and The British Organisation of Sikh Students (BOSS), I kindly request that the photograph displaying Guru Nanak wearing a red cap, earings and other unappropriate clothing be removed at your earliest convenience as these photos are incorrect immoral and very degrading to the sikh community, it is offensive to even suggest that Guru Nanak would wear a cap when he renounces all rituals, renounces the wearing of jewellerly. I look forward to your reply
(nakamura84@hotmail.co.uk)
