Talk:Guitarist

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[edit] Incorrect Information

I fail to see how a list of guitarists is useful to someone searching for information about guitarists and the roel of guitarists. Especially when a list is pointed to in the "See Also" section. This page should be moved to a seperate topic in order for information on the role of the guitarist (a quite detailed subject) to be set in its place. --The Pain 05:59, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Leslie Fish

I realize that Fish isn't a particularly noteworthy case, but she's at least as notable as some of the others given, and as far as I can tell, is the only representative of the filk genre on the list. If others object, I will not challenge a redaction. -Schol-R-LEA 06:02, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Validity

Am I the only one who doubts the validity of an all-encompassing list of "notable guitarists"? -leigh

Not at all. Pages like this give a lot of ammunition to the "Wikipedia is crap" crowd. -saltydog

This page is so bad... TheDavesr 09:46, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

This page is bad. It needs a fuller description of 'a guitarist' and that list definitely needs scrubbing or condensing. A short written 'History of famous guitarists' or something similar should be incorporated.

[edit] Eric Clapton

Should he but put under both rock and blues? It's hard to pin his style down. Deltabeignet 23:47, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Shadows

The lead-guitarist of The Shadows, a group known in many countries (remember Apache, Wonderful Land, Atlantis, Theme from a Deer Hunter, etc. etc.), Hank B. Marvin, doesn't even appear in the list as well as there is no page on The Shads.

Shame on you, Englishmen! A Belgian

(who's English is too poor to write the pages himself)

Thundercloud 11:28, 9 Jan 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Removal

Why are some guitarists removed from the list??? Isn't this a list of guitarists in the world?? Why would you ever remove anyone in that case??

Some guitarists are removed from the list because they are meant to be "notable" not just guitarists you happen to like. Can we not limit it to guitarists who are famous for their influence on culture as well as their acclaimed musical skill?

[edit] Why does this page exist? May I delete it?

Seriously, why does this page exist? We have Category:Guitarists. Would anyone object if I put all these names in the abovementioned category and then nominated this page for WP:VFD? Better idea: I'll turn it into a stub, because a worthwhile article could grow here about the history of guitarists and public perception of them. Right? I understand that then all the "red links" here would be lost, but if this is the only page that contains a link to a yet-unformed article, then it's probably not a terribly high priority, is it? -leigh (φθόγγος) 21:06, Dec 15, 2004 (UTC)

categories are a newish addition to WP, this page predates them by some margin. I'd say leave it, since it's not doing any harm. WP is not paper - if an article is redundant then its existence won't bother anybody. On the other hand some may prefer to use this page rather than a category page, or it would facilitate a search on "guitarist", which helps the user. Really the page should be called List of guitarists - if anything should be done at all a simple move should suffice. Graham 22:41, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
One advantage of lists over categories is that lists suggest articles which need to be written. Hyacinth 04:05, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

This discussion was from a long time ago, but I tend to agree we may have no need for a long list of guitar players, since there's a category. Friday (talk) 20:42, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

I'd be happy to see it deleted. What's the criteria for inclusion? In what way are those listed here "noted"? (see also similar articles for Keyboardists, etc.) Andy Mabbett 09:49, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

We also have List of guitarists (Blues, Jazz, Rock, Metal) and List of bass guitarists (Blues, Jazz, Rock, Metal). Either all of these should be deleted/categorified, or we should turn this one into a disambiguation page and create list of guitarists (classical and folk) or some such article. --DDerby-(talk) 07:26, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
Keep in mind that there's an effort to improve Guitar. The article Guitarist is different than the other two lists, and they'll be worked after Guitar is improved. +MATIA ☎ 12:57, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm a guitarist. Shouldn't I be on the list? Seriously, the web is full of lists. There's nothing about any of this that is particularly meaningful or informative. It's like the kind of thing I used to do as a 13-year old AC/DC fan. This page is an embarrassment to WP and stands as emblematic of a good reason to doubt the value of the whole project.

[edit] What the Hell?

This isn't the article for guitarist, this is an article for list of guitarists. I'm afraid we already have one. All this is is list of guitarist by genre. This article is in need of serious attention.

[edit] Rock/Pop VS Metal

Hey, Rock must be merged with Metal and Pop must be parted from it (Metal is complilation of Rock subgenres)... This is way too stupid, that Ritchie Blackmore and Jimmy Page are located below the "pop" tab; AC/DC is a Metal band (but located under Rock/Pop), and both tabs share "alternative", i.e. Nu Metal bands, which is absolutely nonsence.

What is much obscenier and shameful thing is that Tony Iommi, pioneer of Heavy-Metal riffing, and, according to some folk, inventor of Heavy Metal, is stated under Pop!!! This is a herecy, at least, this is big mistake, like applying same to Metallica or Iron Maiden, for examlple!

And, there are no (AFAIK) famous Pop guitarists. Pop music with a more-less professional guitar player usually is reffered to as the Pop-Rock group.

People, someone answer me, is it ok to merge this categories, or better is simply delete this page.

[edit] Please NO fairuse images in this article

There is no possible justification of fairuse in this article. It is a simple list of names. It's not about the subject of the photo. Album covers belong in articles about the album, not here. Please use public domain or GFDL images only for this article. --Rob 03:15, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jewel?

Why is there a picture of Jewel? She's hardly notable as a guitarist; there's many guitarists in the acoustic/folk category that could better represent the genre(s) far better than Jewel. Dubc0724 12:51, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

If you have a free image of a more notable guitarist, please add it. Clearly the page is better with the image, then without. --Rob 18:52, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
I'll look around. I'm sure we can come up with photos of far more accomplished guitarists than the two we have posted here currently. Dubc0724 17:42, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wait,wait,wait...

Who the hell put guitarists to the "Blues from the 1980s to the present" list,who didn't even live in the 80's? Ah,I guess it's my job then to clean it...

Indeed, the only notable Blues guitarists from the 80s that I can think of, Stevie Ray Vaughan and Jimmie Vaughan, are listed in the metal category. Disgusting. And "80s guitarist Freddie King" died in 1976.

Even now that the page has been somewhat fixed, it's still somewhat pathetic. Why are so many of the "60s Blues Guitarists" e.g. Otis Rush actually 50s Blues guitarists

[edit] Content poll

Okay, this article is ridiculous. There is already List of guitarists and Category:Guitarists. I propose removing the laundry list of guitarists (and merging into List of guitarists if there are exclusive entries) and starting an article about guitarists. Please chime in below and we can get to work. --Aguerriero (talk) 21:25, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Support

  • --Aguerriero (talk) 21:25, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Oppose

[edit] Moving

The silence is deafening.... Anyway, I'm going to be WP:BOLD and move the list of List of guitarists by genre for now. Then we can work on making this an article about being a guitarist, not just a list. --Aguerriero (talk) 17:30, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

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