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Archives: Archive 1 (August 29, 2004-March 3, 2005) - Archive 2 (March 11, 2005-March 28, 2005) - Archive 3 (March 28, 2005-April 17, 2005) - Archive 4 (March 20, 2005-June 6, 2005) - Archive 5 (June 6, 2005-July 4, 2005) - Archive 6 (July 4, 2005-July 26, 2005) - Archive 7 (July 30, 2005-September 26, 2005) - Archive 8 (September 27, 2005-October 13, 2005) - Archive 9 (October 14, 2005-November 18, 2005) - Archive 10 (November 18, 2005-February 12, 2006) - Archive 11 (February 12, 2006-February 17, 2006) - Archive 12 (February 18, 2006-February 26, 2006) - Archive 13 (February 26, 2006-May 13, 2006) - Archive 14 (May 13, 2006-July 31, 2006 ) - Archive 15 (July 31, 2006-September 20, 2006) - Archive 16 (September 20, 2006-October 30, 2006) - Current

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Contents 1 Mezmerize 2 mesmerize 3 Caribbean Wikipedians 4 Wikipedia:Wikiportal/Caribbean/Notable People 5 WMC RfA 6 Qatar 7 Michael Mann (scientist) 8 Back? Me? 9 Flags 10 WMC's RFAr 11 Wikistress 12 My RFA thanks 13 Mamoncillo 14 Carapa 15 rfAdmin 16 Thanks 17 WIKIPEDIA ABUSE Ril, (81.156.177.21), FS. 18 Wikistress (again) 19 What's today's date, anyway? 20 StockMail 21 Racism and intelligence 22 Cricket on VfD 23 Oops 24 Thanks 25 thanks for supporting me 26 My wikiholiday 27 Ethnic slurs of Trinidad and Tobago 28 Holiday 29 Blackface

[edit] Mezmerize

Thank you for protecting the page to avoid this user (66.36.136.123)'s vandalism. We are sorry about violating the 3 revert rule though. -- Mike Garcia | talk 23:53, Jun 25, 2005 (UTC)

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No worries on the block. These disputes tend to get very out of control, so I think you did the right thing. When it is discussed and decided upon, feel free to update that infobox, or let me know and I will do it. Thanks again! Cbing01 (talk) 00:06, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] mesmerize

I know nothing about the subject of the article (I did a 10 second google search to aquire those links), but I'd like to see mike garcia not get banned. Ergo, I'd prefer the page stay protected for awhile. ¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸ 01:26, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Caribbean Wikipedians

I like your idea, count me in. Here are some other Caribbean Wikipedians whom I believe would also be interested. Wrote to them and tell them I sent you. They are: Cjrs 79, Joseph,<<Coburn Pharr>> and User:AntonioMartin, Let's keep in touch. Tony the Marine 1 July 2005 00:45 (UTC)

I'm in as well. —Joseph | Talk July 1, 2005 02:56 (UTC)

Count me in1 Hey, thanks for inviting me. I love everything and everyone Caribbean and Latin American. What country are you from? I originated the article Deaths in Ciudad Juarez, and a person e-mailed me in an insulting way telling me since Im Puerto Rican I shouldn't care about Mexico, which, by the way, geographically speaking is also a Caribbean country by way of Cancun and Isla Mujeres. That rwally got me wonder about this person's mental health, because I believe all Latinos and Caribbeaners are brothers and sisters and I want to thank you for trying to organize this group. Im definitely there.

Once again, thank you and God bless you! Sincerely yours, Antonio El Cheveron del Caribe Martin

Hola Trinidad!!! Como estas?? Im happy to know you're from Trinidad. Beautiful country! Ive seen it on brochures only, through :(. I know only a couple of things from Trinidad: Maurice Hope, a fabulous, fabulous world boxing champion (you should have seen the beating he put on some European top fighters!) and BWIA, the airline. I hope you dont get mad at me for saying this like the Mexican person did, but I used to see them every saturday, back when their planes where white and yellow with a girl and a flower on the tail. I loved them! Now that they are green with an orange or lime drawn on the fuselage I love them even better!

Well, I agree with everything you said about some people trying to divide us Caribbeans and Latinos. I think its sad specially since all the things we have in common unite us as brothers. I was impressed one time to learn there are about 50 nations in the Caribbean alone, roughly 25 percent of the world! When you think 100 percent of these countries speak either Spanish, English or French, that should bond us even more. What you are doing here is excellent.

Well, I will say adios now, I hope to hear from ylu soon!

thanks, and God bless you!

Sincerely yours, Antonio Caribbean Fiesta Martin

• I'm in!!!This looks like a great idea. I'm also from Puerto Rico, and I'm willing to help and collaborate on this proejct in any way. Let's get it on! I'll keep in touch!:D <<Coburn_Pharr>> 1 July 2005 07:23 (UTC)

Hi Guettarda,

CaribDigita here, I think that's a neat about Notice Board for Caribbean Wikipedians. I think a lot of 'common' regional good could be brought about by it. I am all for it! Count me in! CaribDigita 2 July 2005 17:55 (UTC)

No need to pick a single country. If you don't mind my asking, are you born in Barbados and based in Trinidad, or the other way round? Guettarda 6 July 2005 17:18 (UTC)

Hey there, I did make sure to update my profile. To answer the little note you left. Basically, I was born in Boston, grew up during the summer with my Grandparents in B'dos(they orig. from Trinidad). And I still have family in T&T that I sometimes visit. :-) CaribDigita 8 July 2005 03:21 (UTC)

• I'm in, but I'm busy with a few real world things these days. I'm seeking some involvement from some of the regional ICT people as well, though that hasn't been very promising. Actually, the same questions we're looking at are the same ones that they have been having meetings about for years. Thanks for the invitation, it is accepted... but first, I have to get my own website online after it was crippled by a Denial of Service attack. Like you say on your main page: I must be doing something right. --TaranRampersad 5 July 2005 04:54 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Wikiportal/Caribbean/Notable People

Great idea! I made a suggestion of a possibe structure, dividing the section into the fields in which these people are most noted for. Since its your baby please take a look at the page and do what you think is best. Let me know about your decision. Your friend Tony the Marine 7 July 2005 19:07 (UTC)

[edit] WMC RfA

Thank you very much for the information, as it does change my vote. As for the diffs, your word is definitely good enough :) All the best.--Scimitar 7 July 2005 22:35 (UTC)

[edit] Qatar

Thanks for your answer at WP:RD about Qatar. I am grateful. PedanticallySpeaking July 8, 2005 20:47 (UTC)

[edit] Michael Mann (scientist)

Hi G, I'd be grateful for your opinion on the slow edit war at Michael Mann (scientist). I'm a bit close to the subject. William M. Connolley 22:46:38, 2005-07-09 (UTC).

[edit] Back? Me?

Thanks, I do appreciate it. In part, I was out because I visited some friends in England for ten days, and didn't want to abuse my internet privileges (and wanted to spend most of my time with them and their son). I have to admit I was also feeling burned out by some battles that I still think are worth fighting (I am not talking about my BCE proposal — although I want to battle any attempts to use that whole thing as a reason systematically to erase any instance of BCE in Wikipedia — just other things). Also, I have reached a point where I genuinely do not know what more I have to contribute. If I do have more to add, it will take me some time to figure out what. And in the meantime, I am at an exceptionally productive, but busy, stage in my work, which often involves 13 or 14 hour days that are exhilarating, but leave little time for anything else. Anyway, none of this should be taken to mean that Wikipedia is any less important to me. Thanks again, Slrubenstein | Talk 00:30, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Flags

The flag layout on your user page is cool, so I borrowed it, with attribution. Salsb 04:18, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] WMC's RFAr

All of what you say about the RFAr and ArbComm is true. It's unfortunate that the fact remains that the ArbComm did parole him and he does POV-warrior at times, even if I would probably agree with his opinion. I've seen some of his comments on VfD too, and they are less smoothly phrased than they might be (even though VfD is pretty spiky anyway). It would be nice to have another official (so says ArbComm!!) expert added to the admins, but not this one just yet. He's close to being promoted at the moment, but if he's not then I'd certainly consider my vote completely afresh after the parole has expired. -Splash 02:09, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikistress

Hello Guettarda. I see you got a lot of wikistress. May I ask why? I do hope you don't leave wikipedia. Every time we lose a competent wikipedian, the idiot ratio gets a bit higher :-( Redwolf24 06:30, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] My RFA thanks

Thanks for your work on the RFA. Also, I hope "your" bomb hasn't been too stressful (what was it for?). I went through London on monday: an odd experience, tubes shutting, lots of police around, etc etc. William M. Connolley 18:27:40, 2005-07-13 (UTC).

[edit] Mamoncillo

Hi Guettarda - saw your note at Talk:Mamoncillo; I'd agree a move to the scientific name is a good idea, though before doing so, do you know if the genus is monotypic or not? One of my books says Melicoccus has two species, but goes on to describe only the one, and I can't find anything else saying more than one species. MPF 21:30, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Answer myself! - there's a Melicoccus lepidopetala, from Bolivia, Paraguay and Argentina - MPF 21:33, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Carapa

Hi Guettarda - thanks; you're right (I was going on the basis that the previous editor(s) had left the genus unlinked); when I checked up with google, there's 4 or 5 species. I'll add them. - MPF 23:09, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] rfAdmin

I appreciate your maturity and forbearance on Dr. C's adminship thing. You've been a peach throughout, while I have been (well, not always proud of myself, and let's just leave it at that).

It goes without saying that despite being a "bureaucrat" (God, I hate that word) I won't be deciding this matter. There's never been a more obvious conflict of interest.

If it turns out negative, I will suggest to William that he regroup and try again in a month or so. He's a really likeable chap, and utterly honest. Have I mentioned, that he's one of the few people I trust to edit my talk page comments? The only issue between him and me is neutrality on climate. Otherwise I'd have nominated him myself 2 years ago! Uncle Ed 15:56, July 14, 2005 (UTC)

My thanks to you too. Unsuccessful this time (despite Ed's best last-minute efforts), but an interesting experience nonetheless and I much appreciate your efforts on my behalf. William M. Connolley 20:02:14, 2005-07-14 (UTC).

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the kind words on my talk page. As you say, I'm rather too new for that kind of thing at present (and I suspect my edit-balance would be questioned; I'm a little heavy on *fD). Thanks too, for your handling of this RfA; my opposition to Ed Poor's proposal stems from concern that process, consensus and precedent be followed rather than my (heavy-hearted) opposition to your nomination of WMC. -Splash 17:27, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] WIKIPEDIA ABUSE Ril, (81.156.177.21), FS.

Ril has been causing problems at Authentic Matthew. Please help us to resolve.

RIL - M.O.

1) Sock Puppet redirects and hopes nobody notices - Article Gone.

2) SP starts edit war-victim gives up - Article Gone.

3) Later new SP 'merges' and redirects - Article Gone

4) New SP starts edit war - Article Gone

5) If all fails, SP puts up Vfd and makes false statements against his victim often getting THE VICTIM BLOCKED.

PLEASE STUDY THE 'EDIT HISTORY' OF THIS ARTICLE, RIL and 81.156.177.21 for the facts speak for themselves. --Mikefar 05:08, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

Actually, the above is one of the numerous sockpuppets of the article's creator - User:Melissadolbeer - see the user's edit history, and Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Melissadolbeer for details. The article in question is Melissadolbeer's original research based on an account by Jerome which is almost universally considered to be an error confusing 3 different gospels (Gospel of the Nazarenes, Gospel of the Hebrews, and Gospel of the Ebionites). It also contains material presenting Eusebius's views of what was Biblical Canon - better discussed at those two articles, and the entire source text of the alleged Gospel, which is otherwise almost universally split into the 3 seperate texts above. The source text was already on WikiSource, and what was salvagable from the remainder of the article was merged to the above 5 articles, and Gospel of Matthew, at the suggestion of User:Wetman. It exists only to support Melissadolbeer's original research thesis. Melissadolbeer's claims of recieving abuse from me, 81.156.177.21, doc, Slrubenstien, Wetman, etc. (whom Melissadolbeer claims to be sockpuppets of one-another) are simply down to the fact that we have at one time or another merged the article elsewhere leaving only a redirect, or have voted to delete it at VFD. The above comment by the sockpuppet has been pasted by it into a vast number of user pages, an act which essentially constitutes excessive disruption to Wikipedia, simply because Melissadolbeer refuses to abide by the process of VFD. ~~~~ 19:21, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

To Mikefar - I have looked at the matter previously, I don't know enough to intervene. To -Ril- - Although I know nothing about this topic (which would make me well qualified to edit it) I disagree with your belief that you should only edit articles on topics about which you are ignorant. Guettarda 00:13, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikistress (again)

I was delighted to see your WikiStress is down. :D! KEEP ON TRUCKIN' EDITING Redwolf24 05:52, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] What's today's date, anyway?

Of course I thought I was supporting your view that Wikipedia is a community where people can express and discuss their differences in a clam and reasonable manner! ;) Slrubenstein | Talk 01:23, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] StockMail

I noticed you left a message for StockMail (talk • contribs) regarding copyrighted images. I had left comments about this on his talk page a few days ago but it didn't seem to completely sink in. I've mentioned this at WP:AN/I, wasn't sure what else to do. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 19:29, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Racism and intelligence

Hey, thanks for the note.

Despite having a load of work to do, I've managed to somehow spend most of my time today on Wikipedia. (I'mma be in trouble tomorrow! :p) I took some time to scan the article, and it has the usual problems. Any article on the subject should at least minimally address the following -- even though there may be articles on the site devoted to these issues: What is intelligence and how is it measured? Are the metrics and instruments used to determine numeric equivalents unbiased? How were the sample populations arrived at, and were there biases inherent in that process? The article mentions group disparities when factors like education (graduation from high school, I believe) are taken into consideration -- but anyone involved in education policy knows that's bogus, given the huge disparities in quality of education where the majority of blacks in this nation reside. Have there been any credible cross-ethnic studies of "intelligence" where socioeconomic status and family background/history have been equalized? (Clearly, disparities are the result of such environmental factors.) It's the same "arrogant/racist white-boy club" stuff -- just rehashed. It's all utterly meaningless drivel, because -- no -- such studies have not been done. And if they have been, they haven't been cited. SOS. I'm thinking I won't even bother to weigh in. Articles like this will exist likely here and in other venues, regardless. And those who consult them do so with already preconceived notions of black inferiority. (No one I know in their right mind even questions that "intelligence" -- whatever that means, and to whom -- is a combination of environmental and hereditary factors. They know it has nothing whatsoever to do with race/ethnicity, except insofar as overarching environmental factors are affected by race/ethnicity. Peace. deeceevoice 23:17, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Cricket on VfD

Hiya. You previously voted 'keep' on the VfD for Nottinghamshire_v_Yorkshire_26_June_2005 and other subarticles of 2005 English cricket season. I just wanted to let you know that these pages have promptly been put back up for deletion, this time at Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/Essex_v_Glamorgan_15_May_2005. Those of us who have worked on these articles would value your continued support. Thanks and best wishes. --Ngb 19:46, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Oops

I just saw the ~~~~ and didn't actually check out the name. Given Lir's past habits in choosing new user names, it is perfectly possible -Ril- is the same person. If that is the case, I think we are all going to have to learn to ignore his contributions quite quickly. Pcb21| Pete 07:11, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for voting in my RfA; I promise I'll wield my sacred mop with care. If you ever need me for anything, you know where to find me. Thanks again! -- Essjay · Talk 15:15, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] thanks for supporting me

Hello, just a quick note to express my gratitude for your support of my RfA. I'm sure I'll become a familiar face on places like the Administrator's Noticeboard and Requests for Adminship, as well as the murkier parts of my new job. "From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked." (Luke 12:48, NIV) Never was a truer word spoken. I feel empowered, yes, but not in the "oooh cool delete button!" way I was kind of expecting. Already I feel the weight of the responsibility I have now been entrusted with, a weight that will no doubt reduce given time. Thank you for believing in me. :) Garrett^Talk 10:09, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] My wikiholiday

Thanks for your very kind words. I shall take your advice. I doubt that I'm gone from here for good, but one particular user seems to be going out of his way to deliberately annoy me at the moment, and it's just not worth the fuss. I suspect I'll be back to rfc him, but I'm just doing some small non-stressful tasks around here for now. Grutness...wha? 01:27, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Ethnic slurs of Trinidad and Tobago

Some slurs (supposedly) used in Trinidad and Tobago have been added to our list of ethnic slurs. That list has often attracted spurious entries. If you ever have a chance to look it over that'd be great. Cheers, Willmcw 04:59, July 25, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks! -Willmcw 05:34, July 25, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Holiday

Thanks for your message. I've had a very good holiday in mountains, but without PC and internet. :) I think that now isn't the right time for my adminship. I'll let you know in future. How about your holiday? Do you had it yet? - Darwinek 17:48, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

That would be very nice. Most tourists visit only Prague, but in the Czech Republic there are many beautiful places. I live in Český Těšín (see photos). Our city is divided by Olza River, see photos of Cieszyn (on Polish side). Maybe you'd be considering a visit to our city. I would make you a guide. - Darwinek 09:24, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Blackface

"You might consider putting your comment right in the article, use the comment tags or something to that effect...."

Thanks for the tip -- but don't you mean "or something to that Affect?" :p Yes, it's nice to see it on the front page. So far, there hasn't been nearly as much racist vandalism as I expected. The skinheads must be on holiday. Peace 2 u. deeceevoice 14:45, 26 July 2005 (UTC)