User talk:Grey Pursuit

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[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Remixography of Mariah Carey

Welcome, Grey Pursuit! I noticed that you placed a vote on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Remixography of Mariah Carey. Participation in the community is encouraged, of course, but your status as a brand new user means that your vote might not be counted. Please understand that this is a common practice on Wikipedia, and that it is necessary to prevent deliberate misuse of our voting systems. Straw polls on Wikipedia are meant to measure community consensus, and should not necessarily be taken as literal one-member one-vote voting. However, please do make further contributions to Wikipedia, and express your opinion on policy matters.

I should add that I've come across a lot of your edits since you voted, and I've seen that you're a serious contributor whose presence on Wikipedia is more than welcome. This business about voting is general policy, and certainly not aimed at you personally. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 14:17, 1 September 2005 (UTC)


Some of us were discussing the current state of the article, and we are wondering if the song were not released (issued for sale or distribution), why are they included in her discography? See the talk page.

  • Here is Carey singles disc. up until 2003. As you can see, many of the singles that you are including are not in her official discography.

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[edit] "Overview"

templates like "Mariah Carey2" don't constitute sections of an artcile, and shouldn't be given section headings. in addition, the template isn't an overview. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 09:30, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Remember also not to refer to people in articles by their Christian names. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 10:03, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Boldfacing number-one positions

Per Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Music/Tables for charts and Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, number-one positions in chart tables should not be boldfaced. Thanks. Extraordinary Machine 16:36, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Also, on an unrelated note, I don't think that information on "No. of chart topper" is notable unless a) the single hit number-one on a major chart where the artist's success had previously been limited, or b) it broke some kind of record for the most number-one hits on that chart. Extraordinary Machine 16:40, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I'd just like to say that I did not intentionally ignore your previous message, I just didn't realise that I had received it. Sorry! Also, I admit that I kind of got carried away with slapping the merge tags onto the articles for Carey's most unsuccessful singles (especially given that the Charmbracelet and Mariah Carey (album) pages seem to be well developed), but I do think that there should be some sort of criteria that a song or single must meet before it gets its own article. I still think that "No. of chart topper"-related material should be restricted to notable things such as "My All" becoming Carey's record-breaking thirteenth U.S. number-one hit (and not "We Belong Together" becoming her sixth on the Billboard Rhythmic Top 40 chart), but it shouldn't be removed all together as some of it can be important. Same with the remixes/official versions lists: clearly not all of those remixes and different versions are notable, but some of them may be. Extraordinary Machine 17:17, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chronology on Mariah Carey singles articles

I was wondering, should promotional singles be included in the chronology through the articles for Mariah Carey singles? (Note that the issue of some of the links being redirects back to the album articles shouldn't be a problem if a "See also" link to the singles discography article is included.) Extraordinary Machine 16:50, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for replying. I'll get to work editing the chronologies, but I'll make sure that a "See also" link to Mariah Carey singles discography is included. On a slightly related note, I read on the You Got Me article and here that "The One" was a promo single. Also, I now agree with you that maybe we shouldn't merge the articles on full single releases to the album pages just yet, and instead concentrate on merging the promo and unreleased singles first and then see how long the album pages are, as well as trying to expand the albums and singles with useful material (for example, Through the Rain is quite short, but I can think of information I've read about the song that could be added to the article). Extraordinary Machine 18:22, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Order of info on Chart table

I think that the charts should be alphabetical (except with U.S. charts first, as you said), but I don't really mind. Or perhaps in order of the size/population of the country? On a slightly related note, I think that Wikipedia's Manual of Style says that "United Kingdom" is abbreviated as "UK" without dots (and not "U.K.").

It feels kind of weird with you and me being pretty much the only people editing these articles regularly! *tumbleweed moves across the landscape* :) Extraordinary Machine 17:38, 25 February 2006 (UTC)