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[edit] Suggestion
Make a section listing fictional depictions of the Green Man. I know Robert Jordan's The Eye of the World prominently included the Green Man, and I can't believe that to be the only example. --maru (talk) Contribs 23:24, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
- Another fictional depiction of the Green Man that might be of interest to mention is the character of Tom Bombadil in J.R.R. Tolkien's Lord of the Rings. -- Sam, 12:50, 22 February 2006
[edit] Jolly Green Giant
In modern times, the Green Man occurs in sometimes unexpected places: Del Monte's advertising character the 'Jolly Green Giant' is, in essence, a modern derivation of the archetype.
How so? This is an interesting idea but I can't begin to see how it could be justified. Just becaue they're both green and leafy? It seems like a thought off the top of someone's head. If there's any evidence for this idea let's see it! Flapdragon 02:04, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, probably because they're both green and leafy. It's not necessarily an intentioal derivation, and mentioning it in Wikipedia is iffy, IMO, but I can see a case being made. That's the thing with archetypes; they show up where you find them, not necessarily where someone (consciously) intended them to be.
- Septegram 14:39, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
That may be true, but I don't see how this is an example. Even if the implication is just that the GM was somehow subconsciously present in the mind of whoever invented the JGG, it's pretty dubious. The JGG has green skin and wears leaves; the GM isn't literally green in colour, he's usually found carved in unpainted stone or wood, and the foliage is part of him. Anyway he's a just head adorning a surface, rather than a three-dimensional whole man. A pretty weak link. We'd be on better ground comparing the JGG with Adam and Eve, or Shrek, but would anyone think that was an enlightening parallel? Flapdragon 18:26, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Thinking about both this parallel and the one above with Tom Bombadil, I begin to wonder whether there is some confusion in people's minds between the architectural motif of the Green Man and the legendary/heraldic archetype of the Wild Man or the Old Man of the Woods. Flapdragon 18:47, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
- The GM is an archetypal character and I agree, is related to the Jolly Green Giant and Tom Bombadil, it's more of a "mother nature" kind of symbol... They may not have decided to base said commercial figures on the GM myth, but all the same the symbolism is the same. I also think to much emphasis is placed on the GM's archetectural appeal, he was a myth originally and was not created for archetectural use (pardon my spelling). Personally I think that the Jolly Green Giant and other figures should be put in another category, something to do with the archetype and symbol that the greenman has become. Remember, he developed independant of culture in many parts of the world, that is what makes him an archetype, so perhapse the JGG is just another form of that culturally independant Green Man.
Leif902 22:57, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Bog Brothers
I have tested the link to Bog Brothers - Beloved Order of the Green Man. This link was found not to work; the address does not function correctly. I could find no other mention of BOG on a search. I have replaced this link with an alternative link to which I believe the author/editor was referring. abdullahazzam
[edit] Who's William Anderson?
There about 10 or so people by this name on Wiki, to none of whom is the Green Man quote obviously attributable. How about a direct link?
