Talk:Greater Poland Uprising (1918–1919)

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Contents 1 Old talk 2 Some grammatical corrections 3 Move and disambig 4 Use English Naming Conventions

[edit] Old talk

This article appears to be rather one-sided in depicting the Polish-German conflict, a more neutral point of view would be welcome.

And whatever the historical and political aspects: the English used is awkward and full of spelling mistakes.

If you want your opinion taken seriously, please clean up the language, especially in the calendary section - BTW a good example for the problem: the word calendary is not idiomatic English, how about Timeline instead?

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Well, this article has been tagged for improvement since August - it is December now, and nothing relevant has happened. It is still very one-sided by providing only a partisan, if not nationalistic, pro-Polish view. It is still full of orthographic and grammatical errors, and it also makes a number of factual mistakes: e.g. on November 11, the Alles signed an armistice with Germany, not a formal capitulation.

Please correct these shortcomings, otherwise this may be a candidate for deletion. 66.52.202.26 13:34, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

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Shouldn't this date be 1918? "but serious preparations had been going on since 9 November 1919." Otherwise, the text doesn't make sense. Also, while conditions at the end of WWII in Poland are fairly well known, the same cannot be said for WWI and some description should be given. How much military presence did Germany have in Great Poland? What were their main forces doing? Bwood 01:11, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

• In Russia there was a civil war, so there was no Russians nearby
• Main German Forces were still on eastern front
• I will try to find how many German troops were fighting against uprising (only in Poznan few thousands soldiers) Radomil 01:27, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Some grammatical corrections

Tried my hand at helping clean up some grammatical errors and put some neutral perspective into the body of the article - (did not touch the timelines or references as I am not privy to them)

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[edit] Move and disambig

This page should be a disambig for the following uprisings, thus this and other articles from the following series should be renamed.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 01:29, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

• Greater Poland Uprising 1794, to help the Kościuszko Uprising
• Greater Poland Uprising 1806, to help Napoleon I to liberate Poland and create the Duchy of Warsaw
• Greater Poland Uprising 1846, part of the all-Polish 3-partion uprising
• Greater Poland Uprising 1848, part of the Spring of Nations
• Greater Poland Uprising (1918–1919), Poland regains independence after the World War I

Support. Szopen 09:39, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

I made the very change that Piotruś suggested even before I knew about this discussion, so yes, it makes sense to me. Appleseed (Talk) 21:41, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Well, I'm not realy sure. Most of people hen they say "Powstanie Wielkopolskie", thinks about this from years 1918-1919. Moreover I'm sure that, even most of Poles, knows only this one uprising. So for now oppose. Radomil talk 15:25, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Well, it's true this is how it is solved on Polish wiki, but I think that the date-in-name is the best solution.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 02:05, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

I agree. logologist|Talk 04:17, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

But why to move it to some Polish name instead of English name? I thought WP:UE is binding... Halibutt 16:08, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Use English Naming Conventions

I have moved the page to Great Poland Uprising, in accordance with the Wikipedia Naming Conventions. On a tertiary note, shouldn't most of the city names be in German, as they were legally German Imperial territory? Ameise -- chat 17:43, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Also, is a timeline overly necessary? Can't you just give a normal summary of it? Ameise -- chat 17:46, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

On a third note, the timeline should be deleted alltogether -- it is obviously being written by people IN POLAND who hardly know the English language -- half of the stuff makes absolutely no sense, and the other half is terrible English. Please, stop bringing people here with the sole goal of adding a Polish POV to everything, who don't even know how to write in English. Ameise -- chat 18:13, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

You realy think that deleting is better than correcting? WWII has it's timeline. Radomil talk 18:29, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, this timeline is very, very drawn out, and also goes into very very vague references, or ones that are not overly signifigant. Plus, the timeline is longer than the article itself. And about my Poland comment, sorry, but I do believe that if you want to contribute you request a proper interpretation in the discussio page, otherwise the resulting text often does not make any sense -- Polish grammar and syntax is vastly different from English.Ameise -- chat 19:13, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Optional moving it to separate article... but forme here is optimal place for it. Summary is in begining of article. Radomil talk 19:28, 31 May 2006 (UTC)