Talk:Great Law of Peace
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[edit] Existed since 1000 BC?
Existed since 1000 BC? That seems extremely unlikely. From a Google search, the constitution doesn't say anything about a date at all, although admittedly a search gives written versions. Adam Bishop 05:25, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)
yeah that's exactly the sort of thing that needs a reference. Until someone can provide it I'm deleting the text from the page.--Andymussell 00:15, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
If, on the main Iroquois page it can be asserted that the english may have helped write it (and it would be accepted if those meddling indin's wouldn't have played the race card), a notion that has absolutely no historical precedence, then surely the notion that an ancient culture could have made their own constitution can at least be alluded to. Furthermore, there is more evidence that it could have been made in 1000 B.C. then there is that the english could have helped in it's drafting. The reason for this is that the culture of Native Americans goes back far beyond the last ice age, as supported by Vine Deloria Jr. book " Red Earth, White Lies". Also, it is important to note that Benjamin Franklin himself pleaded that the colonial states follow a plan similiar to the Iroquois: "It would be a strange thing if six nations of ignorant savages should be capable of forming a scheme for such a union and be able to execute it in such a manner as that it has subsisted ages and appears insoluble; and yet that a like union should be impractical for ten or a dozen English colonies.: - Benjamin Franklin, "Lies My Teacher Told Me", James W. Loewen pg. 111
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[edit] Move request
See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English). The English name is preferred. "Great Law of Peace" is far more common than "Gayanashagowa" in English-language sources.
Google Books:
- Gayanashagowa 7 hits
- "Great Law of Peace" 427 hits
Google Scholar:
- Gayanashagowa 12 hits
- "Great Law of Peace" 123 hits
heqs 06:01, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support per WP:UE. as well as Google Test. Stamp out hypercorrection. --Dhartung | Talk 08:53, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support per Dhartung. Kafziel 17:49, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
Weak oppose. I'm usually an advocate for Use English, but this time I think it's probably better to use his native name. – Axman (☏) 12:39, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
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- Support. Thankyou for clearing that up Kafziel. I thought I read that the article was about a person for some reason, sorry. – Axman (☏) 02:49, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
- This isn't a person; it's a document. Kafziel 12:44, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
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