Talk:Grateful Dead discography
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[edit] Reworking
If anyone would like to know, I am working on making this section into a table, ala what I did with Phish discography. You can see my progress so far at User:Moeron/Sandbox01 and feel free to comment at User talk:Moeron/Sandbox01. Cheers! --MOE.RON talk | done | doing 17:06, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Live albums
This is one case where putting the studio albums and the live albums in separate sequences makes no sense. The original Dead live albums, such as Live Dead, Skull & Roses, Europe '72, were just as much new releases of new material as the studio albums, and just as much as part of the Dead evolution and story. As such, they deserve to be intermixed. 02:12, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry, I don't have this page watched. If you want to go to the trouble to intermix them, that is fine with me; all I would ask is to have the Dick Pick's and Digital Download Series kept seperate since they are more of a group of albums within the GD timeline. -- MOE.RON talk | done | doing 03:42, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
- Well, I went ahead and did this, and you can see which live albums I moved into the first section. None of the DPs or DDSs qualified by my criterion, so no worry there. However I hadn't realized that the formatting of the studio albums table has different columns than that of the live albums table, so my straight copying has produced a somewhat messed result in places. I don't have the will to fix this all up, so if someone else does, thanks; otherwise, just revert away my changes. Wasted Time R 02:04, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
- OK, I fixed up the first table, IMO it looks okay now. Wasted Time R 19:43, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Categorization
Moeron, are you sure that Bear's Choice really belongs in the "current" list? The concert was already three years old at its time of release, and as the article says, it was sort of released as a tribute to an earlier sound of the band. On the other hand, it did have a lot of material in it that hadn't appeared before. Wasted Time R 19:54, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
- I know you hate to hear this, but I can source some Dead books for reasoning. -- MOE.RON talk | done | doing 20:03, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
- No sourcing necessary, it's arguable either way, you deciding is fine. Wasted Time R 20:19, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] "Multiplatinum"?
In the RIAA column, does "Multiplatinum" mean two-or-more times platinum, or does it mean exactly two times platinum? Normal English usage would suggest the first, but the entry for Skeletons in the Closet suggests the second. Wasted Time R 23:33, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
- At RIAA.com here, they denote albums as Gold, Platinum, and Multi-Platinum, suggesting your first assertion. Glancing at other musical artists discographies, they seem to denote higher than platinm as 2x Platinum or 3x Platinum, ect. -- MOE.RON talk | done | doing 03:38, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
- No, the M's for multi-platinum have numbers in parentheses after them, (2) or (3) or whatever, indicating how many times platinum. The trick is you have to keep reading, as each certification going up in amounts is listed. Wasted Time R 04:01, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
- Um, no, I meant glancing at other musical artists here on Wikipedia, like Barbra Streisand discography. I know the searchable database at RIAA.com lists G, P, M(2), and M(3). -- MOE.RON talk | done | doing 04:33, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
- No, the M's for multi-platinum have numbers in parentheses after them, (2) or (3) or whatever, indicating how many times platinum. The trick is you have to keep reading, as each certification going up in amounts is listed. Wasted Time R 04:01, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
I see you've fixed the article to indicate "Double Platinum", so this is resolved. Wasted Time R 12:06, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Dead & Dylan
Is Dylan & The Dead missing from the discography by accident or on purpose? Wasted Time R 04:05, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- Its a bit hairy, but from what I read, even though Garica, Culter and Charbonneau worked on the post-production it is considered a Dylan release since it was released under his Columbia Records name/contract. -- MOE.RON talk | done | doing 17:34, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- OK, but then why is it threaded into the GD album infobox chronology? Wasted Time R 18:19, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- I don't know, you should fix it then. I have been to the page and touched it only once when I was blindly correcting dates. -- MOE.RON talk | done | doing 18:23, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- I would vote for including D & D in both the thread and the discography, since it was really a joint tour (Dead played almost a full length), even if the album doesn't reflect that. Wasted Time R 18:30, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- I vote to make it reflected as a Dylan album because of my reasons above. Perhaps we can add it to the discography here, but it should be a Bob Dylan album and so reflected in the chronology section of the infobox and category. For a similar situation, see Crazy Horse (band) as back up to Neil Young and such albums as Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere and Greendale (album). I will see what Wikiprojects: Albums has to input. -- MOE.RON talk | done | doing 18:50, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- I would vote for including D & D in both the thread and the discography, since it was really a joint tour (Dead played almost a full length), even if the album doesn't reflect that. Wasted Time R 18:30, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- I don't know, you should fix it then. I have been to the page and touched it only once when I was blindly correcting dates. -- MOE.RON talk | done | doing 18:23, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- OK, but then why is it threaded into the GD album infobox chronology? Wasted Time R 18:19, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
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- Situation isn't similar, for reasons given in previous response. But not the end of the world either way :-) Wasted Time R 19:00, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
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How isn't it similar? Crazy Horse toured with Young, joint touring and opening shows for him before playing as his backing band. They even did a live album with Young in the same vein, Weld (album), which is also considered a Young album. -- MOE.RON talk | done | doing 19:12, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- Because the Dylan and the Dead Tour featured two very famous acts who were co-headliners, with one headliner happening to back the other during half of the show. Crazy Horse has always been primarily a backing band, not a top-billed act. Wasted Time R 19:38, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Album art.
I don't know if this is the right place for this, and if it isn't I'm sorry, but is anyone working on the Grateful Dead album pages that currently have no artwork or track listing information? I'd very much like to add those to the pages, but I can't do much about the information on the albums because I'm just now getting into the Grateful Dead and I'm still learning. Thanks. RitchieM4812
- The answer to this kind of question on Wikipedia is almost always, you want something done, you gotta do it yourself. Usually it doesn't take deep knowledge to put in album covers and track listings, since the images and information are readily available on amazon.com and its ilk. For obscure GD issuings, maybe it's harder, I don't know. Wasted Time R 00:38, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
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- Alright, thanks. I usually use allmusic.com to get cover art and track listing. RitchieM4812
[edit] Singles Discography
hiya, i just created a Singles discography, the information is from this website: http://tcgdd.freeyellow.com/tcgdd.html. Thank You Doc Strange 15:18, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
