Talk:Grand Ayatollah Hossein-Ali Montazeri

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[edit] Requested Move

Highest clery is named with their titles on Wikipedia, similar like Pope Benedict XVI, who is not listed as Benedict XVI. This is similar to Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani as well. Gryffindor 22:59, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

  • Support, as per Gryffindor. Stefán Ingi 13:44, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Unlike popes with only one at a time (or sometimes two claimants to one title), there are multiple "Grand Ayatollahs". Gene Nygaard 17:18, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
yes so what? all the cardinals are also listed with their clerical title. Gryffindor 18:29, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Agree--Sina 22:59, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Support. ナイトスタリオン ✉ 23:01, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Support. Pollux_nt
  • Oppose. in shiite there are four stages to become a Grand Ayatullah, first is Sheykh, second is Seghat Ul-Islam, third is Hojjat Ul-Islam, and the fourth one is Ayatullah (means sign of the God in english), and after passing these four levels, one can either carry on to become Grand Ayatullah, or stop and do whatever he wanna do. therefore there might be many Grand Ayatullahs at the same time, while muslim people have to choose one of those Grand Ayatullahs as their Marja-i-Taqlid (the source of immitaion), and as far as I know even if there are 200 Grand Ayatullahs living at the same time, which is very rarely to happen, only 2 or 3 of them become the popular ones and be followed by herd of muslims. Sina 17:43, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Oppose. "Hossein Montazeri" is enough. "Grand Ayatollah" shouldn't be part of the title; it should prefix the name at the start of the article.--Patchouli 15:38, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Result

Moved. WhiteNight T | @ | C 06:04, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] SouthernComfort, mind telling me why the accuracy tag is placed?

Why is it placed?--ĶĩřβȳŤįɱéØ 04:40, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

The accuracy tag was placed due to a dispute regarding whether or not Khomeini personally designated Montazari to be his successor, as well as regarding the issue of what Montazeri's views are concerning the Islamic Republic and the institution of velayat-e-faqih. You can review the edit history for more information, if you'd like. SouthernComfort 16:18, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] His Following in Iran

Re: He retains a large following amongst religious Shi'a Muslims in Iran. Is that true? How large a group? If he had a large group of followers how come they did nothing to release him from the house arrest of 1997-2003? Does it make sense?

Who is http://www.irvl.net? Who is Frederick Nemani? What are their credentials? Come on guys, you call this research? Where is the original document? Let's not forget the rules of Wiki!

PS1: He was known as Gorbeh Nareh (an indecisive cartoon character!) in Iran!

PS2: [4] http://www.amontazeri.com/Farsi/Payamha/87.HTM This domain is parked, pending renewal, or has expired. Kiumars

  • They did. I had one relative in Iran who was jailed without trial and tortured for supporting Montazeri. His supporters will never dare to do it openly. Those that did dare joined history and the government-run media in Iran is not going to report it.--Patchouli 15:45, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Patchouli can you prove that what you say about your relative is true? Anyone can claim that one of his relatives done this and done that! I used to live in Esfahan and I happen to know Montazeri very well and am well aware of his popularity in Najaf-Abad and Esfahan before and after revolution! Kiumars 15:16, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
This is exactly why there is no freedom of the press in Iran. This way not everything about history can be recorded or proved.--Patchouli 03:35, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
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