Talk:Gran Turismo 4

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[edit] AI used without explanation?

I noticed I had used "AI" ("Artificial Intelligence" or "Artificially Intelligent") in reference to A-spec points, without an explanation, but I was not the first to do so. I can't decide where to define it to what degree, or if it's even necessary these days, so I'm just making this note here for consideration. Simply linking to AI (Artificial intelligence) could be considered, but might not be totally appropriate. And the AI or Artificial intelligence articles might take strange twists in future, meaning they wouldn't give a confused reader a succinct idea of what was meant. Is linking to artificial intelligence (wiktionary) acceptable practice in wikipedia? Presumably if this problem, it applies to other articles in the Gran Turismo "family".--SportWagon 17:56, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

I think using AI for explanation is alright. If the proportional significance of video games with regard to the meaning of AI ever peaks and ceases to merit note in the introduction of AI, then the term AI itself will no longer need any explanation. At least that's my forecast. :-) ENeville 20:26, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Of course, I only now see that there is Game AI, but I think that's a poor title and the article should be moved, probably to AI (game). ENeville 20:32, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] PAL version

729 cars in the PAL version? what kind of vehicles they have added? Noble M15? Pagani Zonda Roadster? Chevrolet Corvette C6? Can anyone know? Please? Professional Gamer 21 October 2006

[edit] GT4 data to be transferred in Gran Turismo HD

SportWagon, is it possible that the GT4 data from the PS2 memory card transfer in Gran Turismo HD? Professional Gamer 28 October 2006

[edit] A-spec points

We should perhaps mention 250 point challenges. That's why I didn't rv that edit myself. Also, we don't make it clear that events giving same A-spec points aren't necessarily equivalent. That's mostly because your score is based on all cars in the field, not just the second-place one you must beat in order to get any points. I allude to this when I say "after a large number of events". But I can't think of a clear way to say any of this right now, let alone deciding how encyclopedic (or even NPOV) it will be.--SportWagon 18:04, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GTO Trivia Should Be Deleted?

Under trivia, it currently says...

  • In the game, the American Pontiac GTO 5.7 has more horsepower than its Australian version, the Holden Monaro, despite the fact that they both use the same engine.

That point has a bit of an interesting history. I don't see the point as worth mentioning, really. Originally someone appeared to imply it must be mistake that there is a horsepower discrepancy, but I would say 328 versus 350 could be due to the type of tune done for the type of market. In the heyday of American muscle cars, you'd get more variance than that when the cars rolled off the line, based on the semi-random nature of tuning under assembly-line conditions. Some portions of the history suggest maybe some think it worth mentioning merely that the "The American Pontiac GTO 5.7 is also available in the game as the Australian Holden Monaro". I could agree with that, although if voting, I'd vote for simply removing the entire point. I am also totally ambivalent about mentioning the horsepower discrepancy.

This trivia isn't needed. The Holden Monaro at the time (2004) had a lower tuned version of the LS1 (245kW/333hp) to the Pontiac GTO (261kW/350hp). The LS1 engine was deliberately tuned up by Holden for the GTO.Mr. Pointy 17:16, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dead (dormant) reference to somewhat silly criticism

  • One reviewer expressed disappointment about some open top cars, except those that came with a foldable roof which can only be used in single-car time-trial or photo-shoot mode and cannot be raced against other cars.<ref name= Bytesector>[http://www.bytesector.com/data/bs-article.asp?ID=425 Bytesector review] URL accessed [[September 26]], [[2006]]</ref>

Bytesector claims to be coming back on October 1, 2006. That's currently over a month ago, but, in any case, who knows whether the referenced ancient history will come back with it? But the attempts by people to qualify the criticism have resulted in a silly sentence. I'll remove ", except those that came with a foldable roof" since it is covered by "some", but I can no longer track down the review to re-evaluate the paraphrase of the actual criticism.--SportWagon 22:12, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cr900 Car?

Someone edited to suggest there was a Cr900 used car. My guess would be they have bought a Cr3600 used car which would then show a garage value of Cr900.--SportWagon 23:02, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

www.gtplanet.net does indicate a car for Cr2,405, and a couple of others under Cr4000, but they seem somewhat anomalous. Cars available at the start of the game are somewhat of an issue. Changing Cr4000 to Cr2400 would arguably be correct, but might give an unrealistic view. I cannot substantiate Cr900, however.--SportWagon 23:02, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Approximately Cr4,000 can get you a 1979 Nissan Bluebird; quite a nice and fun starter car. Cheaper cars really aren't all-round starters. Other reasonable cars for around Cr4,000 are 1983 Honda City, Civic and CR-X.--SportWagon 20:29, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fast

What's the fastest car in the game? What's your top speed, and what car did you use? I once got a Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG, tuned it to the max and reached 270 mph.. :))

[edit] Valencia not in GT4

http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=89457 --SportWagon 20:25, 13 December 2006 (UTC)