Talk:Golden Gate Park
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[edit] Hmmm ...
This seems like an awfully complete article to have sprung up in one sitting. I'm not saying it's a copyright violation, because I can't find from where it's copied, but I'm suspicious. Gentgeen 07:54, 10 Jan 2004 (UTC)
- Wetman cleared up my concerns. It's not a copyvio. Gentgeen 00:15, 11 Jan 2004 (UTC)
- Definitely taken as a compliment! Wetman 01:30, 11 Jan 2004 (UTC)
I've removed the (1013?) about the area, based on this: RecPark_Consdolidated_02-03.doc unfortunately-a-Word-document report
(I'm assuming the SF Parks Department know how big their park is ...) -- Bth 15:32, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)~
Hey, User:Moncrief! you removed "considerable" from the comparison with Central Park? Golden Gate's 1017 acres minus Central Park's 843 acres leaves 174 acres larger, quite a considerable city park on its own in many places! You removed the identifier from Olmsted, the architect of Central Park Don't be cross if I return them. Wetman 10:05, 3 Mar 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Largest Urban Park?
Why does this article list the park as the largest urban park in the U.S. when the wikipedia's list of urban parks rankes it ninth? The Opressed One 04:31, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
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- Accoring to the University of Texas at El Paso, Franklin Mountains State Park is the largest urban park in the world (source). Urban park also contains a list of the largest urban parks in North America. Cacophony 02:41, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Cannibalizing articles
Whenever new articles are spun off a parent article, the parent, or "trunk" article shouldn't be cannibalized. Conservatory of Flowers is a case in point. The basic facts about the Conservatory of Flowers as a feature of Golden Gate Park remain here, part of the full story of Golden Gate Park. They will doubtless also appear at Conservatory of Flowers, but in a much expanded and more detailed description of the structure, its construction, its history, and above all its contents: all information about the Conservatory in and of itself. Similarly History of France can't skip Bonaparte simply because there is a separate article Napoleon Bonaparte. Each article remains complete. --Wetman 22:05, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
- I didn't start the Conservatory of Flowers article; I stumbled across it and thought I'd contribute something. Nor did I cannibalize the history content from Golden Gate Park I wrote it from scratch. When I looked back at the Golden Gate Park article it seemed there was duplication for no good reason so I condensed it to be consistent with the descriptive content on other features in the article. I'm happy to leave things alone, but I definitely think that the detailed history of the Conservatory of Flowers doesn't need to take up space in the Golden Gate Park article as well as its own article, and that the history of the Conservatory is more appropriately placed in an article on the Conservatory. The park map lists 37 features and the Golden Gate Park article only mentions 11, so there is ample opportunity to describe the park, it's long and interesting history and its contents without duplicating historical detail about specific features in multiple places. --Paul 14:53, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
[edit] article misleading?
Reading the article for the first time, I was struck by the snarky comment about parking; as I understand it, the net result will be the "elimination" of the surface parking, and narrowing of the roadways. My source is : http://www.goldengateparkconcourse.org/golden_gate/circulationaccess.asp
I've changed the description of the Music Concourse garage to conform to the above source. --Paul 16:31, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
The Golden Gate Park Concourse Authority (owner of goldengateconcourse.org) is not an objective, disinterested party. It is a corrupt body that has violated key provisions of the very law that mandates its creation. Two lawsuits have been filed over their behavior, though a corrupt judge (since retired) has allowed them to proceed with impunity. Whether they will actually remove surface parking remains to be seen. Narrowing roadways is not even mandated by law, and as far as I know there are no plans to do so. --Jym 08:03, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] John McLaren link is incorrect
The link is to John McLaren (1831-1910), a Scottish politician. John McLaren the Golden Gate park superintendent was born in Scotland and lived from 1846-1943. A good source for a bio of John McLaren, the park superintendent: http://www.rpts.tamu.edu/pugsley/McLaren.htm
[edit] Is there a grammatical Error??
An english teach of mine stated that their was a grammatical error in the golden gate park. I am not sure as to what it may be, but would be delighted if anyone else knew about it.
[T]he Music Concourse is also undergoing a series improvements [sic] is more a typo than a grammatical error. Whether these changes are "improvements" is a matter of some debate, so that assertion does not qualify as NPOV. --Jym 08:13, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Section on Park Culture
There's no mention of the park culture in this article. There are many people who spend all their time in the park, and not just the homeless or teenages. Many people look after the park (the police seldom involve themselves in park affairs) and many of them have been there for some time. Hippy Hill, Kite Man, and the Janis tree should be mentioned. I've been googling this (the Janis tree) for a little bit, and haven't turned up anything. Nevertheless, there is a legend that Janis Joplin mixed several doses of LSD with a jug of water and watered a tree (then just a sapling) with it. I've seen the tree this was supposedly done to, and it's easy to believe, as the tree appears deformed and mutated. I haven't been able to find a source to confirm or deny this, but the tree is located at 37*46'10.55" N 122*27'26.23" W (using Google Earth). If anybody could find a reference, that would be awesome. Zelmerszoetrop 06:48, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Japanese Tea Garden
This deserves a mention in this section plus a link to its own expanded section. I am a vistor to San Francisco and not a garden expert so I believe my view is unbiased. The gardens are truely noteworthy for their beauty.
[edit] Successful botanizing in Bolivia?
The sentence "Only Bolivia escaped his net." was deleted by User:Eaefremov, who is apparently aware of McLaren's successes in Bolivia. --Wetman 08:51, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
- If it is true that McLaren successfully sourced specimens from every country in the world except Bolivia, then that remarkable fact surely deserves an appropriate cite. If that is not true, then the article is better without that ironic sentence, don’t you agree? --Paul 20:05, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
- Well, I can't find my original reference now, so let it be. The New World was intended anyway. Not important. Additions and deletions are often based on information. --Wetman 08:12, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
