Talk:Goaltender
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[edit] Fat goaltenders?
What stops very very very fat people from being good Goaltenders ? Can somebody explain...
dignity.
- In all seriousness: the likely inability of such an "athlete" participating in a sporting event without suffering significant health problems. Granted, one could argue an extremely wide person with very low stamina could be dressed as a backup goalie and inserted for a short period of time near the end of a game or in overtime to prevent being scored against, but it would probably not be seen as "sportsmanlike," and the team would go down in infamy. Staedtler 02:53, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Also, there are maximum size limits on virtually all goalie equipment, i.e. legpads can be no wider than 11", the thighpad in the pants can be no wider than 10", the maximum width of a jersey (armpit to armpit) is 29.5", etc. These size limits essentially mean it would be illegal for a goalie too large to fit within the gear size limits to play in the NHL, NCAA, IIHF, etc. --rsgdodge 19:10, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Scoring goaltenders
Are there any goalies who have scored goals? We should start a section to talk about these rare occurences.--Sonjaaa 00:39, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
- Chris Osgood was the third goalie to score in the National Hockey League, when he scored an empty net goal against the Hartford Whalers in 1995-1996. I don't know who scored the first two, or if anyone has scored one sense. Gentgeen 02:22, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
- After reading the Osgood article, I noticed we have a whole catgory for these guys, at Category:NHL Goalies who have scored in a game (which should probibly be renamed "NHL goalies ..."). Gentgeen 02:25, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Goaltenders shooting in shootouts
- Speaking of offensive play by goalies, isn't there some thing where if the shootout goes through the whole team, the goalie has to take a shot? Just curious. Rethcir 21:41, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Net minder?
Where does that net minder thing come from? In British English people would say Goalie or Goal Keeper Daveirl 2nd November 2005 22:59 (UTC)
- I've heard net minder bandied around a bit from both American and Canadian players/coaches, but I've never heard it attributed as a British saying. PFlats 21:39, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Goals scored during delayed penalties
The article says If the opposing team commits a penalty while the goalie's team has control of the puck, the goalie may leave to be substituted because as soon as the penalized team gets control of the puck, play is stopped before they can score a goal. However, if the empty net team puts the puck in their own goal net by mistake, the goal still counts against them. I clearly remeber that some person many years ago told me that it used to be like that until some team (I think it was the Italian national team of some reason) actually made a selfgoal in a such situation and that the rules were changed after that. Of course it could be that NHL rules differs or something. I also can't say I feel so overwhelmingly sure about it, so I will leave it for someone else to confirm.
-When there's a delayed penalty, the team that did NOT commit the infraction can get an Extra attacker by swapping in a forward for their goalie. If the puck somehow goes into their net, it doesn't matter if it was their own player who made it go in there. The goal still counts against them, and credit for the goal goes to the player from the opposing team who last touched the puck. As long as the play is in progress, if the puck goes in your net, it counts. The only exception is if it bounces off the referee or linesman. ColtsScore 07:21, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Issue with the Playing styles
I couldn't find anything on the so-called "toes up" playing style, which is also unsourced, and according to NHL.com, Grant Fuhr falls under the inverted-v style. Also, the inverted-v style doesn't sound like a style at all, it sounds more like the stance you hold before making a save using the other two styles. I've been a goaltender for 15 years using the butterfly style, but according to the article, I use the inverted-v style as I wait for shots and then the butterfly style to actually save the pucks. Anybody else? — Dorvaq (talk) 13:58, 25 October 2006 (UTC)