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[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Ricki.jpg

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[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:JoePasquale.jpg

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[edit] Alison MacGregor

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  • The same goes for Mike Edwards (journalist) and Rae Stewart. We really do appreciate your eagerness to expand Wikipedia's coverage in this area, but we just can't accept text from other websites. If you've created other articles by cutting and pasting from Scotland Today or other websites, please go back and remove the copied text. Than you very much, FreplySpang (talk) 19:55, 13 May 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Orphaned fair use image (Image:MikeEdwards.jpg)

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[edit] Fair use images

Hello Garry. When you upload fair use images, could you please provide a fair use rationale on the image description page. See Image:Ourfriends.JPG for a good example. All fair use images uploaded after 4 May 2006 must have a rationale for use -- otherwise they will be deleted.

Why did you upload Image:SoccerAid.gif after I left this message without providing the fair use rationale I have advised you about? You are wasting your time and mine. The JPS talk to me 09:23, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Publicity photos

Also, please see Wikipedia:Publicity photos. You can only use these if they come from a partt of a website clearly marked as 'press kit', or 'media kit'. Otherwise, it is a copyright violation. Thanks. The JPS talk to me 13:15, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Infoboxes

Oh, and thanks for your work on Infoboxes. If you don't know some bit of info, just leave the field blank, rather than a question mark. The JPS talk to me 13:25, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] External links. Again

Garry. Again, please only add external links directly relevant to that article. re: [http://www.itv.com/sport ITV Sport website]. Biographical articles about people should only have links to sites specifically about that person. This is similar to the feedback you received several weeks ago about adding the ITV website to programme articles. The JPS talk to me 09:14, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:ITVSport.gif

Still no rationale. Not good. Please make it your priority. In the next couple of days all of your images without rationale will be removed from the articles and deleted. The JPS talk to me 10:04, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for expaning it ver so slightly, but it's still not good enough. See Image:Ourfriends.JPG. That is what a fair use rationale is supposed to look like. The JPS talk to me 10:39, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
I've replied on my talk page. You'll see that the rationale required. The JPS talk to me 10:50, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:AndrewCastle.jpg

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[edit] Orphaned fair use image (Image:AlisonMacGregor.jpg)

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[edit] Image uploading

Please don't upload images if you aren't willing to provide proper source information, license information, and a fair use rationale for images which you assert are fair use. Persistently uploading images without proper copyright information can be grounds for blocking. Stifle (talk) 20:29, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image Tagging for Image:SteveBrookstein.jpg

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[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:BenShephard.jpg

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[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:FionaPhillips.jpg

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[edit] Tom Weir

Hi Garry, thanks for sourcing and adding the Tom Weir image to the article. I've been trying to get a decent one for ages, and this one's great. Perfect Tom Weir image, complete with bunnet !!! Well done, cheers. --Cactus.man ✍ 19:35, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] License tagging for Image:ITVSundayFeast.gif

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[edit] Images again...

Please don't misuse the tv-screenshot, as you did for Image:JeniBarnett.jpg. See User:The JPS/FUR, as your fair use ratioanles need to be developed. The JPStalk to me 17:20, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Additions to Category:Children's ITV television programmes

The Category:Children's ITV television programmes page says the following, right at the top: "This category contains children's television programmes broadcast on ITV, particularly those as part of the CITV strand. It does not contain imports which were originally broadcast in another country."

This means that Freakazoid! and Animaniacs and a lot of other shows you added do not meet the criteria for this category. Please revert those additions ASAP. --Darksasami 20:45, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

I agree with you that the name should not change. However, please do not remove the message while the debate is still going on. The admin who closes the debate will remove the message. Please do not remove any similar notice from any article. The JPStalk to me 22:55, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
Please remove the American shows. Think about the number of categories each article would be in if every channel a programme was shown on was included. The JPStalk to me 23:10, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category:ITV sitcoms

I don't think emptying out this category and putting all the articles in category:ITV television programmes was a good idea. That category is already a large category, why make it even larger. It's much handier to have the sitcoms in a subcategory of the category:itv television programmes. See also here Wikipedia:Categorization#Organizing categories Garion96 (talk) 12:47, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

I refilled the category. See also Category talk:ITV sitcoms. Garion96 (talk) 18:06, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
No problem, it's a wiki after all. Everything is easily changed or changed back. Garion96 (talk) 21:01, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image Tagging for Image:TrevMcDonald10.jpg

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[edit] Blocked for image copyright violations

I'm sory to have to do this, Gary, but I have given you a short block because you are persistantly uploading images without following correct procedure. Yet again, (through Image:ITVPhillipSchofield.jpg) you have misused the tv-screenshot tag. It is clearly not a screenshot. Yet again you have failed to follow the guidelines at Wikipedia:Publicity photos. You are welcome to return whne the block expires shortly, but further violations will result in a longer block. The JPStalk to me 11:27, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

BTW, you have made some very useful contributions, and we thank you for it. We would really like you to carry on with these. But I really must stress the importance of copyright and following advice and guidelines. The JPStalk to me 11:32, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Publicity photos

In what way do the GMTV images, such as Image:GMTVAndreaMcLean.jpg, conform with the guidelines at Wikipedia:Publicity photos? Where is the statement on the website saying that it is a press kit, and the images can be reproduced? The JPStalk to me 10:12, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry JPS. I think I'll just forget about uploading images as I'm just not getting it. Sorry for causing you trouble. I will stick to improving and creating articles.
GarryMc 16:55, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blocked again for further image violations

You have been blocked from editing Wikipedia for yet again uploading images under the incorrect tag. Yet again, you are misusing tv-screenshot. The JPStalk to me 20:10, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

But the images you are removing are tv-screenshots, so why are you removing them?
GarryMc 20:16, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
They have been modified by the copyright holder. The JPStalk to me 20:19, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:BBCNewsHuw.jpg

Hi. I noticed that you had uploaded the above image as having been captured by yourself. However, that seems to have been an image I found once before at leeseaman.com. Am I right there? Wikiwoohoo 13:20, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

To eliminate the problem, I'll upload a similar image from the TV Newsroom as its replacement. Wikiwoohoo 13:22, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi there. That image isn't from leeseaman.com, I captured thae image my self.
GarryMc 13:48, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
My apologies. It just looked similar to the one on that site. Wikiwoohoo 11:56, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] PokerFace

Hi, just a helpful tip - instead of making a new page and copying content there it is easier just to click on the move tab at the top of the article (right after the edit this page and history). Moving a page this way also keeps the history of the page. Keep up the good work. Jon513 14:56, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip. I feel silly now. LOL
GarryMc 14:58, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SMG-stub

While 10 articles is enough to justify ordinary categories, stub types need at least 60 articles in most cases (30 if there is an associated wikiproject). Also, stub templates need to be unambiguous, which {{SMG-stub}} isn't. Caerwine Caerwhine 19:33, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, if you look at , you'll see that hasn't got 'at least 60 articles'.
GarryMc 19:44, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Audience share

Hi Garry (crossposted to Antz)

There appears to be a slow-motion revert war going on at the Grampian and Scottish articles over audience share etc. I'd be very grateful if you could both discuss the matter on the appropriate talk page rather than just reverting each other. I'd also be grateful if you could both try to stick to the WP:1RR essay ethos on this subject.

Thanks very much. ➨ ЯEDVERS 18:45, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Logos

Please don't use the Channel 4 logo for multiple telvision program pages. The logo is protected by copyright/trademark and can only be used for television station, network, corporation, or other organization in question, not individual television programs.

Thanks. --Madchester 23:21, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Clean up"

Please don't use an edit summary of "Clean Up" when it's real intention as to add a new image to the page. The term "Cleanup" is reserved for formatting, editing or gramatical errors. Thanks. --Madchester 23:33, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, now I know that for next time. :)
GarryMc 23:35, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Children's ITV television programmes

A consensus was reached through CFD against the move. Why have you ignored that consensus? I'm reverting. The JPStalk to me 10:50, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

If you want you can help correct them. If you start at A we should meet in the middle. The JPStalk to me 11:10, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
OK, sorry, I just thought it made sense. GarryMc 11:11, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Being bold is usually welcomed, but it is always best to discuss things in an associated project before making changes effecting about a hundred articles. Always check the talk pages to see if it has been discussed before. In this case, you would have seen that it has been discussed before, and that the idea was rejected. The JPStalk to me 11:16, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] All those STV articles

Please don't add copyrighted text to Wikipedia
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Mr Stephen 17:25, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Hello, We appreciate your contributions to the Sharon Donaldson article, but we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material. Perhaps you would like to rewrite the article in your own words. For more information, take a look at Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. I've speedily deleted most of the other articles. Changing the pronoun (i.e. from "I like..." to "She likes...") isn't really sufficient. Happy editing!The JPStalk to me 00:06, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image tagging for Image:RussellBrand2006.jpg

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[edit] Copyright problems with Image:TrishaGoddard.jpg

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[edit] Copyright problems with Image:AlexAlexa.gif

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[edit] Blocked for more image copyright violations

You have been blocked for a third time for image copyright violations. Yet again, you have misused the tv-screenshot tag, this time on Image:VickyLee.jpg and Image:STVAlisonMacgregor.jpg. The article screenshot clearly indicates what a screenshot is. You are welcome to return when the block expires, but further violations will result in a longer block. This block (48hrs) is double the length of your previous block because you are not new anymore, and you should know by now. The JPStalk to me 11:27, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:DavinaMcCall2005.jpg

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[edit] Image tagging for Image:DermotOLeary2006.jpg

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[edit] TV Newsroom images

Hi. Don't know if you remember when I mentioned how an image you had uploaded of Huw Edwards and stated had been captured by yourself was almost identical to one I had seen on leeseaman.com, but I have found two more now that are without doubt from TV Newsroom though you have stated in the image summary for each that they were captured by yourself.

All I'm saying really and don't take this the one way, is that you don't need to pretend an image was your own when it comes from somewhere like TV Newsroom, where images are fine for fair use, but credit must be given to them where due. I will update the image summary pages for both image pages. Thanks. Wikiwoohoo 15:59, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:JeffBrazier.jpg

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[edit] Logos in articles...

Hello... why did you insert the stv logo in this edit when Madchester brought a similar issue to your attention on 22 July about the Channel 4 logo? The JPStalk to me 23:03, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

That logo has been there long before I inserted the Channel 4 logos. I just updated the infobox today to be able to resize the new image. GarryMc 23:08, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
So it was... added by your good self. Try to correct errors as you come across them, esp. if you've explicitly been told about them. The JPStalk to me 23:16, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image tagging for Image:ITV_Felicity.jpg

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Don't worry, I fixed it. Wikiwoohoo 10:59, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Still doesn't have the real source, though. The source is the programme. Who captured the file is incidental. The JPStalk to me 20:13, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
It seems to be fixed now. Wikiwoohoo 13:38, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SAN TOY

Thanks for creating this article, however I believe it is a Candidate for Speedy Deletion as there is no information that clearly distinguishes them as important or significant. -- CPAScott 20:08, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

That's fine. Sorry to bother anyone with this. I just want the band to get noticed. I'm not in it, it's my cousin that is. :D --GarryMc 20:10, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Not to mention that asserting they are "as original as possible" yet listing 20 "influences" is...kind of silly.

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:JulyanSinclairSTV.jpg

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[edit] Copyright problems with Image:JulyanSinclairSTV.jpg

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[edit] Copyright problems with Image:Sarah0FlahertySTV.jpg

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[edit] Image tagging for Image:KellyAnnSTV.png

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[edit] Source of Image:John Irvine.jpg?

Hi. Could you please add the real source of images, such as the specific programme. I understand that unofficial websites are due a courtesy mention if that's where the file came from, but they do not own the copyright, and do not deserve the only credit. The JPStalk to me 14:33, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

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