Talk:Glay (band)
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[edit] Important Titles Note for ALL artists (please copy this on other asian artist talk pages)
I must note something very important for future editors of this page (also try to observe this for any non English speaking band or author... etc): If you see a single, album, dvd, concert, or book title that contains poor grammar, please consider that even though the English spelling or grammar may be incorrect, that it still may actually be the official title. If someone is searching for the single, and cannot find it the official way... then what good is wiki? Please do not tamper with titles unless you have found hard evidence that the title has been written incorrectly from the official spelling. also note, some OFFICIAL japanese titles are titled in all CAPS (or with stars and hearts or other "non-letter/number characters) this is NOT a mistake, please leave them like this. All one must do is observe the picture or written info of the single/album/book on the official page which is linked in the article at the bottom. Please help keep wikipedia encyclopedic and correct! Thank you. -- NatsukiGirl\talk 04:13, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
- Well, can you provide arguments on why should we break the convention? why not putting redirects in the all uppercase titles? The article text could use uppercase, but I don't see compelling arguments for changing the convention of the title. Also, for the "people wil lsearch for the upper case title", well, that's what the redirects solve. So far I haven't seen a discussion (perhaps you can point it to me) and since there's no consensus yet, I suggest not to change albums titles to uppercase (as in AROUND THE WORLD from the existing titles). -- ( drini's page ☎ ) 04:16, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Please do not change the locations
The locations/venues for GLAY EXPO 2001 are exact translations from the official website and were confirmed with a search. Please do not change them to inaccurate locations (in regards to the change form Kitakyushuu to Kyuushuu).
--Ladymercury 21:04, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Misspelling
I've heard that Glay became their name because they accidently misspelled their name at an early/first(?) live and decided to stick with it. The reason given now for the misspelling that they 'wanted to be different' being perhaps used in retrospect when it became apparent that to English-speakers' eyes at least this particular misspelling (deliberate or not) is a disaster of epic proportions. It would be difficult to prove either way, but misspellings that coincide with common misspellings are rarely if ever used for commercial reasons especially when the misspelling doesn't appear to be deliberate. (Compare deciding to call your band The Recievers. ) Macgruder 15:05, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Don't Revert POV back
"Due to their musical diversity, beautiful lyrics and wonderful melodies"
This is POV
"The Beatles also influenced this misspelling, as they had purposely misspelled their own band name ("beetle" became "beatle"). "
This has no citation. Beatle is not a misspelling. It is a play on words. 'Beat' is a word. Glay is a straight misspelling. The connection between Gray-->Glay, and Beetle--> Beat + Beetle --> Beatle is tenuous at best.
"they have become one of the most successful and well known bands in Japan, and most of Asia."
This needs a citation. What is 'most of Asia'?
It's clear that the writer of these elements is a 'fan'. There are many online tools to write a fanzine if that's what's required. Wikipedia is not the place though.
Macgruder 19:49, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Wikipedia is not a Fanzine. Do not revert without discussion
This whole article reads like the gushing commentary of a fan. Wikipedia is not a place for fans of the band to try to promote them by saying how 'wonderful' they are etc:
"Due to their musical diversity, beautiful lyrics and wonderful melodies,..."
"Unlike many bands, GLAY makes their music according to what they feel, not what others tell them to do. Because of this all of their songs come straight from their hearts. Their thoughts and feelings of their surrounding days is put into music so everyone is able to share a small part of their lives. With inspiration coming from various people and musicians from all over the world, mixed with the courage to try something new, GLAY's sound is truly unique and one that is always evolving."
The above two are the worst examples, and have been reworded or removed.
Due to the dispute regarding the name of the band, everyone should remember to adhere to Wikipedia policy and not revert and article back without discussion and reasons. Saying 'it was fine before' is not a reason. Macgruder 04:51, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Different opinions about the name
Whether there are different opinions about the name is irrelevant to whether the discussion is included. It's precisely differences of opinions that Wikipedia reports. Admittedly the citations could be better. I'm not sure why the editors of this page are so desperate to hide the issue of the name. The Beatles never had to say "The Beatles (btw. that's a deliberate misspelling", Google neither. What fans should do I guess is write Glay (sic). It would save a lot of typing.
[edit] Addition of cleanup tag
This article needs a cleanup. It suffers from:
Some non-encyclopedic style English:
"continuously producing one #1 hit after the other, with very little time to rest."
Non citated, fanzine, and/or weazel words. e.g.
"By being able to work with many foreign professionals, they gained a different perspective into the music industry from different parts of the world and were able to change and shape their band's sound to become something different from "typical" Japanese rock"
"Although GLAY's style had once again changed in "THE FRUSTRATED", it was a change that still retained the classic GLAY sound that made them rise to the top, and yet introduced new dimensions to their music which presented fans with something fresh and exciting"
And many more. Macgruder 14:34, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Capitalization of member names
Names are names, and therefore are not all spelled in capitals. You'll find their names all capitalized in Japanese articles, simply because it's easier to read when mixed in with Japanese characters, but this does NOT mean that their names are "officially" spelled completely in capital letters. Please do not change this again.
[edit] Removing Statistics section
The information contained in the Statistics section is completely unnecessary to include, as all of the information can already be found simply by looking at the discography. Number of albums, number of singles, etc. is already listed. Listing number of songs each member has composed is also unnecessary and inaccurate. There have been many cases where Takuro has written a song's lyrics but another member has composed the music and vice-versa. To include the statistics of all the songs that were composed in partnership with another member or artist would be impractical, and clutter the article. Please do not include the statistics section unless you have different information to replace the current content with.
