Talk:Glaspaleis
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Two sources indicated that one reason to start a new shop for Schunck was that the town's centre of activity had moved, according to one source ("Schunck's Glass palace" as in the external sources) from the church square to the market square. This makes sense, and I had wondered before why other sources mentioned that the old shop had such a good location, when the market square was around the corner. However, if the market was previously at the Church square, then that would have been a prime location. But neither source is very specific about this, so if anyone knows, please tell. DirkvdM 20:47, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Penthouse and restaurant
I had understood that the fifth floor (the first penthouse floor) included a restaurant, but now it seems that that was all penthouse. Maybe I was confused by the fact that it now houses a restaurant. Anyone know? DirkvdM 13:29, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Architectural texts
In the book 'Schunck's Glaspaleis' there are several texts that I don't quite follow, partly because I'm not an architect. So I'll give them here, so an architect might incorporate the information in a different wording to prevent copyright violation.
"In the basement of the old building, an arcade, provided with large display windows, has been constructed leading from the Marktplein to the Emmaplein. The rest of the old basement area has been used for the switch house. The arcade with the display windows will not be brought into use until the new street between this building and the Vroom en Dreesman building has been completed."
"The outermost row of columns has been placed at a considerable distance in from the outer walls of the building, thus allowing the mushroom-slab floors to project beyond these columns. This prevents there being a major difference between the bending moments of the slabs at the edges compared to the ordinary floor slabs and large bending moments in the outer columns with the resulting differences in dimensions, reinforcement and form of the slabs at the edges and the outermost columns." This should come after the bit about the 'large resistance in all directions to sagging'.
"The floors, up to the staircase and lift section, are mushroom-slab floors, calculated according to LEWE. The foundation slab is also constructed as a beamless floor with a load equal to the assumed uniform soil pressure distribution, which was 0.96 kg/m² and thus very close to the permitted pressure. The foundation slab is 50 cm thick. Using the LEWE method allowed the reinforcement to be adjusted very precisely to the moment progression, since the moments for a single floor slab were determined in a large number of locations. For the purpose of the wind calculation, the building was considered to be a framework with the moment zero points in the middle of each column. The columns were constructed with spiral reinforcement and go from 60 cm thick on the lowest level to 35 cm thick on the fourth floor."
"Since the site for construction was very restricted (some temporary display windows extended beyond the frontage line) the foundation pit could only be excavated with vertical sides. The shoring consisted of two horizontal wooden frameworks, which also carried the formwork for the two basement decks."
[edit] Double glazing?
Climate control seems to be one of the perks of the Glaspaleis. But I wonder how well it is isilated by modern standards. Is double glazing used now (I assume it wasn't used in the 1930's)? If so, has this affected the other climatic aspects as well, such as the natural ventilation? DirkvdM 10:37, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] UNESCO world heritage?
I've read in two sources that the Glaspaleis is on UNESCO's world heritage list of the 1000 most remarkable buildings in the world. But neither here nor on the UNESCO site is that mentioned. Has it been knocked off the list? And is there a link with the UIA list of 1000 most important buildings of the 20th century? DirkvdM 14:56, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
Since ten years I've been following closely what was written about the Glaspaleis, but I never read that it was put on Unesco's World Heritage list. It certainly isn't on the list at this moment, and it is just highly unlikely that it would have been removed from the list since a lot has been done to preserve the building. Buxtehude 23:05, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
Also see the new website http://www.werelderfgoed.nl (in Dutch). Buxtehude 00:38, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] edits by ZS
On 16 April 2006 ZS did so many edits in one go that it was impossible to see check what was altered (especially because of the moving of photos). In the end I decided to revert and try and get the 'good' edits in again. I hope I haven't missed any. Sorry about this crude method. DirkvdM 14:52, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
- Not a problem, though I have yet to see any reversions of my previous edits to date. I'll revert the edits section-by-section this time. ╫ ２５ ◀RingADing▶ 19:37, 19 April 2006 (UTC) ╫
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- How is it with the quotes? I always use double quotes for actual quotes (quoting someone) and single quotes for just about anything else, so as to distinguish between the two. Also, you sometimes use actual double quotes and sometimes two single quotes, which I suppose isn't as meant because here that means italics.
- You added 'an' to 'art deco style'. Is there more than one art deco style?
- You changed 'shop' to 'store', when referring to the old shop, but that was the sort of place that hardly has anything on display, just a counter where you can ask for things to be fetched from the back, and the word 'shop' seems more appropriate here. A store is bigger, like the Glaspaleis, right?
- You changed 'US' to 'American', but that is an ambiguous word, so I'll revert that.
- Why did you change the bit about the lifts? Do you know something I don't? There is no longer one for private use, right? And why did you remove the bit about that lift going up to the penthouse?
- "Work ... completed" isn't proper English, so I'll revert that.
- How is it with the headers? I used the two books as sources, so I put them under 'Literature', but I suppose 'Sources' is more accurate. DirkvdM 08:01, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
