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[edit] Trivia

I think all the awards she has given that are listed forever in the trivia section should be separated into an Awards section. If anyone knows the dates or can find them, that would tidy up the article and make it more organized. --Shrek05 23:06, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Please do not change the section heading back to "Trivia". Trivia per se is not encyclopaedic, so if you insist on calling it that it must be removed altogether or incorporated in sentence structure into the article. To avoid that for the moment I changed it to an acceptable term. Doc ♬ talk 17:17, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Since no one seems to read or understand the guidline I'll put the rest of the items here for article incorporation

Doc ♬ talk 18:09, 11 August 2006 (UTC)


  • She has five sisters: Raquel, Graziela, Gabriela, Rafaela and Patrícia (who was born five minutes younger than Gisele, but is not an identical twin).
  • Gisele originally wanted to be a professional volleyball player and had even thought of becoming a member for Brazilian team, Sogipa.
  • Forbes magazine named her the best paid model of all time. Her personal fortune is valued in 150 million dollars, and she is on the Guinness Book of Records as "the world's richest supermodel".
  • Gisele appeared in more than 7,000 magazine covers around the world. The only woman who made more covers was Princess Diana.


Okay, I started the job. I went from the beginning to the end of the "Career" section. loulou 18:49, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] POV

IT IS IMPORTANT NOT TO INCLUDE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT A PERSON'S LOOKS IN AN ENCYCLOPEDIA ARTICLE. YOU DON'T SEE ARTICLES IN THE ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA SAYING THAT A PERSON IS BEAUTIFUL, HOT, WHATEVER. THAT'S RETARDED AND UNPROFESSIONAL. I TOOK OUT ALL THOSE REFERENCES YESTERDAY BUT SOME IDIOT REVERTED MY EDITS WITHOUT EXPLANATION. THIS ARTICLE IS NOW ON NPOV DISPUTE THANKS TO YOU. 207.200.116.68 02:41, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

I completely agree. This article seems like a personal article. There are words like She made another great move. She is adored by all...It seems as if each sentence is describing how great she is. It seems like someone's personal opinions. Lil Flip246 16:20, 9 August 2006 (UTC)


Frankly, I don't think many are interested in Gisele's face. Her face is not particularly pretty. She's famous for her long legs and well-endowned bosom. She's a body. That should be depicted in the wiki article photo. The face should be reserved for Audrey Hepburn and Milla Jovovich, who don't have much of a body.

A facial close-up is more than well appropriate for articles such as this, no matter what kind of person we're talking about. This is a biography article. It doesn't matter whether the person is some leggy supermodel, or a novel writer. To add a picture showing the body with the premise that "everybody is probably more interested in the rest of her, and not her face" would reflect a biased opinion, even if that wouldn't be immediately obvious to an outsider that just found the article. What I'm trying to say is, we shouldn't think facial close-ups aren't appropriate for model articles just because they are models.--Kaonashi 16:52, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
She's wonderful because she's simple, natural, spontaneous. I saw her in Bahia and is incredible beautiful. --Mateusc 03:25, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

i really don't see how she's curvaceous. she's got barely any hips or thighs. since when was 'curvaceous' only about boobs? hers are implants anyway. CheeseLover 05:14, August 8, 2005 (UTC)


Since she is German-Brazilian, does Gisele speak German, and is she a member of the IELB? -Clauf 08:48, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

No, Is not common German descendent people speak german in Brazil.--Rick Browser 00:38, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
Gisele doesn't speak German. It's not as common nowadays for Brazilians of German ancestry to speak German. IELB? I don't know Gisele's religious affiliation but I think she is Catholic considering most Brazilians of German ancestry are. M P M 10:00, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia sense of humour

From the article:

She came in second in the national Elite Look of the Year contest - Claudia Menezes, from Bahia, was the one in the first place.

I think that might be the funniest use of a red link ever. Wikipedia, it seems, is not without a sense of irony. Soo 13:16, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Dress Size

Dress size 6–8? Not with her measurements. More like 2, but I lack an official source.OK

[edit] tattoo

Why does the article say: "Nervous, she decided to get a blue star tattoo...."? What connection does anxiety have with her decision to get a tattoo?

Maybe so that people would look at the tattoo instead of her? 70.50.173.88 17:13, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reduce Trivia

Could someone reduce the trivia section? It is longer than the article itself. Thanks! loulou 04:45, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I cleared up the first part of the trivia section. I'll do the second part if no one else wants to. loulou 04:55, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
I finished the trivia section! We should mage an awards section for her. loulou 00:11, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
The trivia is way too long. There's alot of not important facts in it. Lil Flip246 16:21, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lutheran?

There is no source that I have found indicating that she is Lutheran or even holds Christian beliefs. Her background is probably Lutheran, as she is of German heritage, although I have yet to find a source that shows what she identifies herself as religiously. Until then, I am taking it out. Shamir1 06:58, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

This doesnt mean much, but in a short interview she had been wearing a cross, in case anybody cares. --Shamir1 03:11, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Leo

What year did they start dating?? This article needs to include that information, because he was her most famous boyfriend. Lil Flip246 23:52, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] External links

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:External_links

[edit] Occasionally acceptable links

Fan sites: On articles about topics with many fansites, including a link to one major fansite is appropriate, marking the link as such. In extreme cases, a link to a web directory of fansites can replace this link. (Note: fanlistings are generally not informative and should not ordinarily be included.)

It should be discussed as to which listing of fansites should be included, as imdb is not a source of these. I believe that the squidoo lense is a good source external links and is not spam.

[edit] Magazine covers

I just reverted a bunch of edits that insist that Gisele has been on over 7000 magazine covers. This strikes me as highly unlikely. Extraordinary claims need extraordinary proof, so I'd like to see a source. Also the list of news stories is useless. Integrate them into the article as citations if they are relevant. Soo 12:37, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

She did NOT grace over 7000 covers. It's imposibble. Claudia Schiffer still holds the record of the supermodel with the most covers, with over 900 magazine covers. It is highly impossible that Gisele who is younger than Claudia was able to surpass her magazine covers. It was just the Gisele fans who wanted to make her seem as the biggest supermodel, when she was not. I checked FMD, and she had like 100 something magazines listed. Lil Flip246 15:35, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
It's not true. You can check the print edition of the Guinness Book and you will see. Plus, just watch her interview on Youtube on Regis Philbin show and he is just saying that she made more covers than any other model in the history of the game. Claudia Schiffer had this title but today we are in different times. You can send a message for IMG and they will tell you exactly how many covers shed did. Plus: Channel 4, from UK, showed a documentary about the 30 Greatest Supermodels of All Times, in wich Gisele came at the second spot (after Kate Moss) and they said that she made mover covers than any other model and she made more money than any other model too. The top five supermodels are: 1-Kate Moss 2-Gisele Bundchen 3-Cindy Crawford 4-Naomi Campbell 5-Claudia Schiffer
Can you give me your source??? Where does it state that she has graced over 7000. I highly doubt that. Claudia still holds the record with over 900. I highly doubt Gisele, who is much younger than Claudia, who had a longer career than Gisele. Lil Flip246 15:52, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
I already give you the source - Channel's 4 documentary "30 Greatest Supermodels of all times". You can check this on the print version of 2006 Guinness Book too. and if you want, you can go to Youtube and watch her interview on the Regis Philbin show and he will say that she has mad emore covers than any other model.
Give me a link, or write down what it says on Guiness. Where does it say she graced over 7000?? Regis saying she's graced more than any model, doesn't say anything about over 7000 covers. Plus how would he know anything about the fashion industry?? Lil Flip246 20:14, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
The Channel 4 thing is probably saying she's graced more covers than any other model that year. But it is not true that she's graced over 7000. Claudia Schiffer still holds the record with the most covers at over 900. I higghly doubt Gisle who's had a smaller career timewise, has had more. Plus you don't have a good source. Lil Flip246 20:15, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Claudia Schiffer was one of the biggest models of the 90's, but she's does not have the same presence in the fashion that she had in the past. Gisele is arguably aclaimed as one of the models who made more impact in the fashion history in all times. That's why she was named the 2nd. greatest supermodel by Channel 4 and also the Hottest Supermodel in the World by VH1. Today we have a lot of magazines and is a different time. Regis Philbin is a professional and he would never say anything on his show that wasn't true. You can contact Gisele's agency - IMG - and ask them for the truth, and they will tell you. Gisele is the model who most appeared in magazine covers, i'm sorry.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Andnanso (talk • contribs) 19:57, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Here are some links: http://www.cbs.com/specials/victorias_secret_2005/models/gisele.shtml http://www.thefutoncritic.com/pr.aspx?id=20051017cbs02 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Andnanso (talk • contribs) 21:28, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

The opening paragraph is be just review the bare facts, not have all the extra material that is already in the article proper. Doc ♬ talk 03:00, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
This is all Guinness says: "Supermodel With Highest Annual Earnings: The world's top-earning model is currently Gisele Bundchen (Brazil), who earned $12.5 million (£8.3 million) in 2001 according to the Forbes Celebrity 100 list released on June 21, 2002. Gisele, labeled the most beautiful girl in the world by Rolling Stone magazine, was allegedly discovered by talent scouts while eating in a McDonald's restaurant." -- Zanimum 15:11, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm not asking about how great of a model she is. None of your sources are answering my question. My question is where did you get the "info" that she graced 7000 magazine covers??? I wasn't asking about her greatness. I wasn't asking about how popular she was. Lil Flip246 16:15, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
What? I was saying that if Guinness was the original contributors' source, yet Guinness does not confirm the fact, the fact is wrong. Simple as that. How does popularity link to money, anyway? -- Zanimum 17:41, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] IPA for "Gisele Bündchen"

I've requested a IPA for her name on the Wikipedia:Reference desk. With that, we'll be able to turn most of the current bullet point on her name into a footnote. -- Zanimum 15:50, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

I made some attempt at correcting the pronunciation but I think the IPA bits should be moved to the beginning anyway and not be in the "about" section (I'm too lazy to do that right now). Cwilli201 17:36, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Disputed edits

I don't know who is doing this with this article, but it's wrong. You can missed up the things. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Andnanso (talk • contribs) 16:55, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

On the contrary, your edits are using unencyclopaedic language and removing things that have been arrived at by consensus. You are very close to being declared a vandal and have administrative action taken against your edits. Several concerned editors here have reverted your edits and will continue to. Please discuss any future changes here on the talk page before making them on the namespace article. Doc ♬ talk 22:09, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
What i'm doing is correct the informations that you are mistaken. Just check the links i'm giving.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Andnanso (talk • contribs) 17:14, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Please read the welcome at the top of your personal talk page. Read the simplified rule set and try to follow those guidelines. Also read on your talk page about the 3 revert rule which you are nearing. You are not following any accepted Wikipedia guidelines. You are not signing your talk page entries, you are not using encyclopaedic language. Doc ♬ talk 22:23, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reverting trivia

Excuse me, I was wondering if you were the one who keeps reverting the trivia on the Gisele Bündchen page. If you are can we please talk on the Gisele Bündchen talk page? Thank you. loulou 17:23, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

No, I'm not. All I've done was incorporate the information into the article, what ultimately should be done to most of the trivia. You can, of course, look in the edit history, see who has been removing the content you speak of. But of course all information should be properly referenced, or else it is fair game for removal. -- Zanimum 17:26, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Actually, my problem was that it was the other way around! Someone keeps putting trivia that is longer than the page itself, and I keep editing and deleting it. loulou 17:29, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Okay, that's good that you're one of us, not on the dark side. Thx! -- Zanimum 17:37, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
I realise you're exaggerating, but there's no need to create an us-and-them situation. All the editors to this article are trying to improve it, albeit with some having more success than others. Soo 19:29, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Richest Supermodel??

I think the Guinness Book has that one wrong. I'd guess that this record is actually held by Sarah O'Hare, Rupert Murdoch's daughter-in-law. What do you think? Leeborkman 06:29, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edits by 201.34.190.71

User:201.34.190.71 keeps reverting the clean up and re-write improvements back to a badly written version of the article. After notifying them of this, I received the response:

"The article that you keep uploading is wroted in a very bad english. My article is more complete." (User talk:201.34.190.71)

I think we need a third party to step in and comment to avoid an edit war. 70.52.228.186 17:59, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

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