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This article was listed on votes for deletion; see Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Girlfriend. [[User:Poccil|Peter O. (Talk, automation script)]] 00:17, Dec 6, 2004 (UTC)

On 28 Mar 2005, this article was again nominated for deletion. The result was keep. See Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Girlfriend (2nd nomination) for a record of the discussion. —Korath (Talk) 01:11, Apr 3, 2005 (UTC)

On 11 April 2006, this article was again nominated for deletion. The result was keep. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Girlfriend (3rd nomination) for a record of the discussion. Robert 23:46, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

And again on 2006-05-04, with the result as keep, per WP:SNOW. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Girlfriend (4th nomination). Stifle (talk) 00:39, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

On 19 June 2006, this article was nominated for deletion with a result of speedy keep. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Girlfriend (5th nomination). -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 17:47, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

On August 12, 2006, this article was nominated for deletion with a speedy keep. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Girlfriend (6th nomination). Georgia guy 01:49, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

  1. I see from the the history that most of the content of the March 16th revision was deleted, with an edit comment of "remove dictionary content". It doesn't seem like the content was added to the corresponding Wiktionary entry. Large chunks of the text that was deleted were things like history of usage of the word that seem more appropriate for an encyclopaedia than a dictionary. Not wanting to start an edit war, would it be permissible for this to be added back in? --AlexChurchill 12:19, Jul 20, 2004 (UTC)
  2. What's the reason for restricting this article to romantic girlfriends when the other common (in the US) usage exists, of female friends of a female speaker? --AlexChurchill 12:19, Jul 20, 2004 (UTC)
In the absence of comment, I re-added this material.--AlexChurchill 22:46, Sep 2, 2004 (UTC)
  1. I notice that romantic relationship and sexual relationship both redirect to the same page (!!) Should one of the links be de-wikified, in the absence of a proper article being created for one or the other? --AlexChurchill 12:19, Jul 20, 2004 (UTC)

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[edit] Link to Sweetheart

Sweetheart is a dis-ambiguation page. This link cannot be dis-ambiguated, and so what is the best thing to do?? 66.32.242.236 21:43, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Ideally? Elaborate on the usage of "sweetheart" to the extent that it makes a valid and useful encyclopaedia article. However, I'm not sure that's even possible, and Wikipedia is not a dictionary. Probably the link should be removed; maybe the whole sentence should be removed.--AlexChurchill 22:46, Sep 2, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Merging articles

I wrote a message at Talk:Boyfriend about merging these articles. See that talk page for details. 66.245.98.79 18:49, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)

See Talk:Boyfriend for further discussion. Andrewa 00:44, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)

The page for girlfriend is short, I also suggest that the two articles are to be merged together. Pathbinder 13:25, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] evidence

Where's the evidence that dating strongly implies sex now, or ever? lysdexia 01:25, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I agree that this statement is excessively general. It is generally agreed to be the case that the majority of adults who date for a significant length of time (perhaps a month, say) will have started having sex by that time, but there are so many exceptions that I think the statement should be changed or expanded. The exceptions are both due to morals followed by particular groups (Christians, True Love Waits, etc) and individual choices that such a generalisation shouldn't stand. However, in clarifying it we shouldn't turn Wikipedia into a social commentary forum. --AlexChurchill 15:29, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Vfd problem

According to Vfd, this article will probably have a consensus to keep; whereas Boyfriend will probably have no consensus. Why so?? 66.245.28.46 00:05, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Often, when two similar articles are nominated on VfD in a row, people will only vote on the first one and not bother with the second (or third etc.). -Sean Curtin 03:00, Dec 4, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Masculine equivalent??

In Wikipedia, it says that this term is commonly used to describe same-gender, non-romantic friends, but that "boyfriend" is not-so-commonly used this way. What, then, is the masculine equivalent?? Georgia guy 23:46, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

As far as I'm aware, there's no direct male equivalent. Of course, I'm not an authoritative source, so maybe somebody else will help? Meelar (talk) 23:49, Feb 19, 2005 (UTC)
Does anyone have an opinion on the use of guyfriend? That's a word I've used for years, to disambiguate between close male friends and male romantic partners, and I'm wondering if that usage has any currency. cky 14:59, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Womanfriend

I'm a little worried at the non-specific nature of the reference to usage of "womanfriend" as an alternative to "manfriend". Removals on the basis that "I've never heard of it" are possible so long as no source is cited. So long as we rely on subjunctive impressions, we may be in trouble. Slac speak up! 02:27, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Dictionaries recognize ladyfriend, but not womanfriend as an alternative. I'm adding to the article that womanfriend is less common than the more common ladyfriend.

While I'm no expert, in a women's studies course at my school we learned that many feminists in the 1970s prefered the term womanfriend over the use of girlfriend or ladyfriend. It is still used today, but far less frequently. MicahMN | Talk 03:50, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Japanese

ガアルフレンッド) ガアルフレンッド was poorly written. It should be ガールフレンド. A Google search for ガアルフレンッド brings up no results other than this article, ガアルフレンド brings up about 142 results where as ガールフレン gets about 161,000. ンッド is virtually never seen and ガール is preferred to ガアル though both are pronounced the same way.

In addition, the male equivalent would be "ボーイフレンド", not ボイフレンド. The male equivalent of kanojo 彼女 is kareshi 彼氏.

I take issue with the statement that ガールフレンド in Japanese has no romantic connotations. I lived there for eight years from 1994-2002, and I saw both romantic and non-romantic usages.

I'm also pretty sure all this is incorrect. ガールフレンド often means the same as in English. 彼女 mostly just means she/her/that woman etc... There might be a difference between usage in young Japanese and older Japanese - we need a Japanese expert here!--Hontogaichiban 16:41, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm a resident of Japan and am currently sitting in a room full of Japanese people. A quick chat with everyone tells me not only does ガールフレンド strongly contain a 恋人 (lover) meaning, but it is an infrequently used word. I don't believe a section on the Japanese use belongs here -- at best, it belongs in the List of gairaigo and wasei-eigo terms. Also wikipedia is not a dictionary, especially an English-Japanese dictionary, and again especially for an infrequently used word. My humble opinion. clay 03:19, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

I took issue with this section as well and based on the consensus here, have removed it. QVanillaQ 03:32, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Partner

In the synonyms section, I've added partner. I'll try to find a source. If someone else could find one it'd be appreciated. Isopropyl 01:34, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Girlfriend Afd status

I think it's about time we need an Afd template for the nominations similar to one of GNAA. Any objections?? Georgia guy 20:19, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Not really. Stifle (talk) 00:39, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
What objections do you have?? Georgia guy 00:40, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 'Friend girl?!'

“Sometimes, the phrase girl friend (with a space) or friend girl is used to avoid confusion with the romantic meaning.”

I am an English native speaker and I have never heard of the expression "friend girl". Please cite a reference. --Thoughtcat 14:04, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Do a Google search. Georgia guy 14:06, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
A Google search is not a reference, as a wisecrack is not an answer for a justified question. A search on "friend girl" (using the quotes) reveals nothing of relevance. 124.86.11.225 07:56, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Ditto on the above. Put it back in if you can produce a reference, but I'm taking it out until then. QVanillaQ 03:36, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unreferenced template

I want to know if there is any reason to allow un-registered Wikipedians to add the unreferenced template. Georgia guy 17:39, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

If you know of a written rule on Wikipedia that says it's unallowed, you're welcome to make the revert as violation of stated Wikipedia policy. 124.86.11.225 03:44, 29 June 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Popular culture

Some people have girlfriends in film and television? I'm shocked. The whole section is pointless and total cruft. violet/riga (t) 08:07, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

i agree, i thought so too yesterday but i saw too many names and wikilinks so i couldn't find the heart to completely remove it.. two thumbs up ;) --PASSIVE (Talk|E-Mail) 14:02, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge??

  • How should the new merged article be titled?? Georgia guy 14:10, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
  • I don't think it should be merged at all --Rubber cat 18:51, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
  • OK so we have articles for each and every pokemon but girlfriend and boyfriend need to be merged?? --Rubber cat 17:01, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
  • This should definitely not be merged. They're different concepts. Voretustalk 14:47, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] First use of the word

Origins and first use of the word "girlfriend", as appears on the Boyfriend article?

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