Talk:German cruiser Prinz Eugen

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[edit] History

I question the assertion that by 1943 Hitler had relegated all Kriegsmarine heavy units to training duties, and propose that it be edited. Certainly their profile and standing had diminished, but they acted as a fleet-in-being and tied down British units. And what about the Battle of North Cape in December 1943 in which Scharnhorst was sunk? That was as a result of an aggressive effort to attack merchant shipping Patrick.

[edit] Prinz Eugen's "Superb" Performance at Denmark Strait

I am a big fan of Wikipedia's neutrality policy but sometimes it appears a bit ridiculous that no "judgement" comments can be made at all.

Let's look at the facts from 24 May 1941: a cruiser scored at least four hits on two capital ships. Some argue that one of these may have contributed to the loss of that ship (HMS Hood). In what circumstances can it be denied that the cruiser performed very well against much superior adversaries. What are warships for, if not to inflict damage or sink enemy ships? Therefore if a comparatively lightly armed and armoured ship hits a bigger ship several times and avoids damage, what does that say about its performance? It says that it was high-quality or, in this case, "magnificent" bigpad 08:08, 26 May 2006 (UTC).

What was so superb in the performance? Two ships on each side firing at the other side, the RN first fired at Prinz Eugen (because of the misidentification but) soon switched to Bismarck so Eugen was not in that great danger to be hit. Is it really a superb performance to score some hits on the enemy warships with a minor change the Eugen was responsible for the loss of Hood? What performance attribute should the Bismarck get? --Denniss 10:47, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

I assume you meant to say "with a minor change of aim"? Even if the change looks relatively 'minor', this was PE's first major action and nothing is easy in the rolling North Atlantic. Surely you aren't saying that a cruiser hitting *two much larger capital ships was nothing to write home about? PE's actions that day undoubtedly aided the Bismarck and enabled her to sink Hood and damage Prince of Wales (I don't see any dispute about what ship sank Hood). For the record, I rate Bismarck's performance as awesome and it could have been ever better if she had continued to batter Prince of Wales, uneven as the struggle was at its later stages. By way of comparison, it's not unknown for smaller ships to hit larger vessels (e.g. the British cruisers v Scharnhorst/Graf Spee, but Graf Spee was not a battleship and those were combined actions). Ok Denniss, let's have your rating for PE that day. Can we agree to say that the ship fought above its weight or is that unacceptable to you too? Regards, Patrick.