Talk:George Allen (U.S. politician)

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[edit] Infoboxes

It is important to state the current state of events, not what will happen soon. As such, the Senator is still in office, and has not been succeeded yet. Stealthound 20:48, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia is not a Crystal Ball

Please consult this source, (Wikipedia is not a Crystal Ball) before changing the "Succeeded by" sections of the article. This is the official position of wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, predicting what will happen in the future. As the Senator is still in office, the article should be left as it is. Thank you, Stealthound 09:10, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please read WP:BLP!

Before anyone adds categories like "racism" to the article again, please be sure to read WP:BLP thoroughly as well as the brief information at the head of this talk page. I have no problem with well-source allegations being put into the article, but throwing someone into a category feels a lot different to me; there's no sourcing, and no explanation of what it measns to be put into the category. I'd very likely remove such an addition as a violation of WP:BLP (an official policy of the encyclopedia) and would encourage others to remove this as well.

Atlant 16:40, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Footnote in infobox

Not a big deal at all, but I think the footnote about Allen's successor should be a wiki ref. I had converted it, but Stealthound reverted, saying that keeping the footnote in the infobox had kept changes to a minimum. To be clear, I don't want to remove the footnote, I just want to wikify it, so when you click on the 1, it'll take you to the note. Personally, I think having the wiki-linked footnote is more accessible, because you don't have to hunt around for where the actual note is (I don't find it at all intuitive for the note to be at the bottom of the box; I would expect it to be at the bottom of the page). I also think it looks better, keeps the style standard, and is just as clear, if not more so. The use of subscript for the reference is confusing to me. Schi 18:25, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

The use of footnotes in Infoboxes is not unheard of, such as Democratic Party (United States). The use on each of the Senators' pages is to provide an easy reference to the casual browser of wikipedia, many of which are not acquainted with political science. Also, for a casual browser, a reference that is easily seen is more likely to keep the article intact, and therefore preferred. Stealthound 18:45, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
I did convert sub to sup, though. Stealthound 18:46, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Archived

Trimmed us down to current discussions. Old discussions are in the third archive.--Rosicrucian 23:49, 19 November 2006 (UTC)