Talk:Gendarmerie

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[edit] Pronounciation

How do you pronounce it? My computer is not displaying the IPA text correctly. Is it JEN- or GEN-? And which syllable has the emphasis? GENdarmerie? GenDARmerie? 205.174.22.28 23:17, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] USA Gendarmerie?

One could make a valid argument that the United States of America has at least two forces that might qualify as gendarmeries. The more famous such force is the United States Marshals Service. The other type of force would be the Special Weapons and Tactical forces that many major metropolitan police departments maintain. --Temlakos 13:29, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

I wouldn't classify either of those as gendarmeries. They are not military or military-style forces, which is the qualification for being a gendarmerie. Most gedarmeries are actually part of the army. Some, like the RCMP, are not, but the RCMP was still essentially a military police force on its formation, even if it's not any more. Most police forces in the world have heavy tactical units - it doesn't make them all soldiers or even military-style. And I'm not sure why you would classify the USMS as a gendarmerie. I can see no resemblance. -- Necrothesp 17:38, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Military body

"gendarmerie (French) is a military body"

In the case of RCMP, shouldn't we say "paramilitary" or "with military origins"? Apokrif 16:28, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge with "Military Police"?

Given the fact that gendarmes fall under the umbrella of military police, might it better serve the reader if these two articles were merged?

No. While most gendarmeries are or were military police, they are distinct things. Most military police forces are not gendarmeries, since they do not police civilians. A link from there to here is sufficient. -- Necrothesp 13:48, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
The two articles should certainly not be merged. Linguistically, Gendarmes do fall under the umbrella of military police, but the concept of gendarme is very distinctive and should have its own page. The concept of military police, as User:Necrothesp points out, is not that of policing civilians, which is gendarmes' main task.129.12.200.49 09:00, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Oppose, on the basis that the current article is large enough to stand on its own and thus corresponds to Wikipedia policy of merger vs. separation. For a similar example, see Israeli Military Police. -- Y Ynhockey (Talk) Y 16:36, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Grenadier not Gendarmerie

I removed the following line:

A common gendarmerie symbol is a flaming grenade, originally the French gendarmerie symbol.

Due to the fact that the flaming grenade is a cap badge and symbol of Grenadier Regiments, and was both British and French.

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[edit] If the..

If the U.S. Coast Guard is a gendarmerie, surely the Norwegian border guards and coast guard would be, too. They're both military bodies with police duties over civilians. --Joffeloff 01:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Colombia?

Part of the Army? don't think so... together but not mixed. They are part of the Colombian Ministry of Defense and the army doesn't have any control over the national police. The Colombian Army has its own military police and its military justice. However due to conditions set by the War on drugs and the Colombian Armed conflict, the police force acts almost as a gendarmerie. --F3rn4nd0 BLA BLA BLA 23:22, 17 November 2006 (UTC)