Talk:Gay bar

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[edit] The Dover Castle merged here

See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Dover Castle. Johnleemk | Talk 14:04, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Needs published source

Moved this to talk:

""The Gay Bar" is a local grassroots movement at UC Berkeley that advocates "spending all [their] money at the gay bar" and "taking [you] to a gay bar" as well as "sodomy."

Jokestress 19:34, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Isn't that just another name for an LGB society ? horseboy 17:04, 22 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Rewrite

I've added slightly to the introduction and rewritten the "Characteristics" section (and renamed it). My aim was to broaden the definition of a gay bar and to point out that the variations pretty much mirror the variations of "straight" bars. I've also tried to soften the emphasis on music and beef up the information about sex on the premises venues. I've also tidied up various bits and pieces and hopefully made the article more comprehensive.

I still think that the list of "notable gay nighclubs" is next to useless. It's very North American centred. I would have thought that a Wikipedia link should be a minimum requirement for inclusion here.

I also think that the list of Gay DJs is superfluous and again suggests that gay bars are all about music. Again, I'd have thought that Wikipedia links should be a minimum requirement, although I don't really see the point of this list at all.

--Wastekiller 15:00, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Notable gay nightclubs

Some of the clubs listed seem notable. Others seem more like ads. My preference would be to make all of them internal, Wikipedia links, and thus let the normal rules of WP notability sort them out. Any objections or concerns? Obviously, this would involve my doing some research to dig up enough detail to make each external link into an article. -Harmil 02:16, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

I'm in support. Exploding Boy 02:20, August 4, 2005 (UTC)
I agree. Mushroom (Talk) 17:45, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
I would suggestion doing away with notablity all together and draw up a list of gay bars in general.
I don't think that's really an option, because Wikipedia shouldn't contain lists of non-notable things. Cadr 14:57, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
it has a long list of gay porn actors, I would hardly call most of them notable. It's an online encyclopedia not a notalopedia
I really don't think that an article about the Gay Bar (as concept) is the place for a list of commercial venues (whether they're bars or nightclubs or anything else). Such a list could never be comprehensive, and even if it was, I don't see what it achieves. WP is not intended as a resource for that kind of information - which is much more easily available at a local level anyway. If somebody really wants to draw up a list of historically notable gay bars, clubs and other commercial venues, then I think Harmil's approach should be adopted, and that it should be a seperate article - something like "Notable Gay Commercial Venues" with could then be linked to from all sorts of GBLT articles. Wastekiller 12:38, 9 September 2006 (UTC)