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"Since 1639, Gardiner's Island has been known by the name of the family that acquired it. Lion Gardiner purchased it from native Indians, his title being confirmed by James Farret, who three years earlier had been employed by William, Earl of Sterling, `Secretary of the Kingdom of Scotland,' to sell lands for him on the whole of Long Island, although at the time the Dutch were in possession there." p. 337, in "Historic Homes of Eastern America," Elise Lathrop. Tudor Publications, N.Y., 1927. c) Robert M. McBride & Co. Found at the Huntington Free Library, Westchester Square, Bronx, NY, which also until recently contained the written ethnology holdings of the Heye Foundation, that catalog now with the National Museum of the American Indian in Washington, D.C.

As a member of the Suffolk County Archaeological Association and graduate Anthropology student I had the opportunity to hear Robert Gardiner speak on a couple of occasions about Gardiners Island, (he also once owned the Gardiner Manor Mall in Babylon, NY. His book-keeper there at the Mall, Mrs. Washington, now an employee of the Peconic Trust, a land buying preservation society, and I worked in an archaeology company, Greenhouse Consultants, Inc.) One must remember that U.S. Senator Gardiner was killed when a cannon, the NYC's Haddersley Forge contributed "Peacemaker," aboard the U.S.S. Princeton, exploded while being fired in salute to Mount Vernon on the Potomac River. His daughter, below decks with President Tyler, later became the Mrs. Tyler and First Lady, after the first public funeral (Senator Gardiner of New York and two Cabinet members, and there were other victims) held in the Capitol Building.

I asked Mr. Gardiner why the treasure of Captain Kidd was dug up in the late 19th century by the British. He said that the USA did not exist then and all properties of convicted felons became property of the Crown. There was a map to it in his vest pocket when he was hung, for what some historians have claimed an accident under mutinous conditions, perhaps he one of the most maligned characters in western history, as his backers in the privateer venture in London never came forward. He was a well to do resident of New York City. A marker is on the island where the treasure, part of an India Princess' dowry (taken in the Indian Ocean), was dug up. It was recently broadcast on PBS that the wealth from it was used in part for a seamen's retirement facility and hospital.

Mr. Robert Gardiner also served in WWII aboard the modern U.S. Princeton in Naval Intelligence. Later, on his recounting the story of the former First Lady Julia Tyler's legacy with President Tyler (six children from his former wife four from her) actor Gloria Swanson remarked she would have to be played by someone like Vivian Leigh. Mr. Gardiner attended law school, where he had to hide the precedent setting "contested will" case with his family name ascribed, resulting after the "cease fire" arranged between the North and South in Richmond, VA, where and when the Former President Tyler died and she requested to return through the battlefield to New York City, later bedside by a wealthy Manhattanite. The case was popularized by the press.

Robert Gardiner was also instrumental in getting the widespread use of DDT controlled, bringing public attention to it when he noticed that the ospreys, "sea eagle" raptors of the waters that nest on eastern Long Island, Gardiners Island, and elsewhere, were dying out. They migrate to and from northern Brazil every year. They were disappearing, as the DDT weakened their eggshells, causing them to break before hatching. Recent stands there and elsewhere on Long Island have encouraged their comeback from near extinction, perhaps.

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Hampton Star --MichaelGray 13:09, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Cool, see WP:CITE if you need to know how to cite it in the article itself. If not I'll check out the references and add the citation myself eventually. --W.marsh 13:40, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

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