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[edit] Content Lacking
As of 9/28/06, this article doesn't even mention the 6-day war in 1967, and Nasser's involvement in the run-up and subsequent disaster. This is absurd. We need some proper historians to assist us bringing this article into proper and realistic context.
This article indeed does not mention a lot of things in general. To mention a few the complex relationship of Nasser with the Muslim brotherhood (An egyptian researcher Tewfiq Aklimandos worked thoroughly on this), the united arab republic experiment (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Arab_Republic), the nasserist influence and legacy (his popularity was immense in Egypt and the broader arab world), the agrarian reform, the nationalization of awqaf ... Also nothing about the non-aligned movement and the Asian-African (Bandung) Conference articles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Aligned_Movement http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandung_Conference
do something about it yourself dont sit around complaining!
[edit] Neutrality
Due to certain paragraphs throughout this article (including "As a testament to his greatness" and, more poignantly, the tiny section on the Six Day War and his role in it compared to the Suez Crisis), i'd say the article has lost its Neutral tone.
Due credit has not been given to Nasser for being the forerunner in freeing the arab world from imperialism. The west will always have its bitterness about Nasser. The article comments and judges nasser's actions. - ashokthommandi
[edit] Anon
ummm I find this really scary considering i came too this site for more information on American and English involvment in the war crime (pre-emptive strike) on Egypt, after i've just watched an interesting documentary on The Black Bird spy plane ,in which an american air force officer freely admits he witnessed british and american flights of f-111 s returning from Alexandria during these pre-emptive strikes.And that america was freely updating Israel with intel and dispositions on all regional forces involved.
[edit] Name...?
Google shows 383 hits for "Gamal Abdal Nasser" (of which Wikipedia are, unsurprisingly, 1 and 2) and 12,200 hits for Gamal Abdel Nasser. I'll move the page tomorrow unless there are strenuous objections. - Hephaestos 06:53 May 3, 2003 (UTC)
- Please do. -- Zoe
There is a sentence "Nasser died of a heart attack only two weeks after the war ended, on September 28", but the war ended in August 7. Is it the longest tow weeks in the history? Eran 16:33, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Minor Changes
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- Removed the line "Some accounts however, say that it was a sound Egyptian military victory." because it really offers nothing to the passage. The line before this one drew the same conclusion without telling the reader exactly what the author thinks.
- Also removed a few double spaces in this paragraph.
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[edit] What Happened?
What Happened to the Nasserism, Legacy, Six-Day War, Arab leader and Personal sections? Also why were all of his pictures removed?
Don't know about the pictures but I rather rewrote the article, i suppose i rather left out those sections, feel free to add them back. ShortJason 21:09, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
--85.69.128.159 23:37, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Family
The spiel about Hoda Abd El Nasser under "Early Life" seems way out of place and far too spammy. First, it has absolutely nothing to do with Nasser's early life. Second, it is an advertisement and really belongs under "external links". Third, the theory of operation of the advertised website and archives do not need to be explained on a page about Nasser. It really needs revision.
- Agreed. It's on my to-do list, but very near the bottom, so feel free to fix it. Palmiro | Talk 17:03, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
I agree with Palmiro, I do not think it is the norm here that family members piggy back on their famous relatives.
I think the part on his family should be added in a seperate section. I put up a list of his children for now, till I find more information on each one. Ahmed Mohamed | Talk 1 November 2006
[edit] Gamal and Jamal
The name of the presedent Gamal can be pronounced Jamal also. Indeed, Jamal is the pronunciation in formal Arabic, and other arabic dialects except for egyptian. Since Nasser was egyptian i see why his name is written Gamal, but i think it should be mentioned somewhere that it could be pronounced Jamal. The point is that when i searched for Jamal, i got no results, and i was confused. I believe that when you search for Jamal Abdel Nasser, it should return the result of Gamal Abdel Nasser. I have never edited an article in Wikipedia, and i'm hesitant to do so, at least right now, because i dont know how. So would someone work on that please?
I totally agree with you! Well said.
He is known as Gamal in most of the litterature and should appear as such on wikipedia. This is a standard pratice in academic work even though, technically, a standard transliteration would have his name spelt jamal or ǧamal depending of the system used for detials see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_transliteration).
[edit] Brioni Declaration?
There are photos on the page of Nasser with Tito and Nehru which are only explained as part of the 1956 "Brioni Declaration," an event I can't find on Wikipedia and which seems to refer to a 1991 event as well (judging from search engine results). The photos also appear on Non-aligned_nations - which is not linked from the Nasser page - so it has something to do with that, but more of an explanation is in order.
The start of the article is written in a biased view, and not factual. Possibly by an Egyptian or Muslim I would imagine.
I'll have to ask whoever wrote that for some sort of justification (i.e., specific examples). ShortJason 21:08, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
I find the begining to be flattering, however it is factual nothing said was wrong, though its style was POV I guess.(not all Egyptians and Muslims are biased). Zakaria mohyeldin 07:32, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Year of publishing
Nasser's Book "The Philosophy of the Revolution" was first published in 1955. NOT 1959 as you have I tried editing it but you guys keep reversing it. By the way the actual title is "Egypt's Liberation The Philosophy of the Revolution" You have spelt philosophy incorrectly as well.! Kind Regards195.93.21.71 16:42, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
- The anon is right. The year of the publishing is 1955. Please do not revert the correction. see the reference. Cheers -- Szvest 17:24, 22 May 2006 (UTC) Wiki me up™
[edit] Trivia
- For a long time my area's postman had the same face as Gamal Abdel Nasser. Anthony Appleyard 21:44, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Context of withdrawal of Western credits
Source is Christopher Andrew and Vasili Mitrokhin, The World was going our way, p147. The chapter also implies that KGB was in contact with Nasser prior to this. The dating is unclear though so I didn't include that.
[edit] Assassination attempt?
I'm sure I read something recently about an assassination attempt by the Muslim Brotherhood, which killed his bodyguard and wounded him. Can anyone further elaborate. --MacRusgail 16:05, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Critic section
Where is the critic section, more analysis is needed on all of these leaders.. --Halaqah 21:29, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Resignation
I find the mention of his resignation address to be mentioned in just one sentence. I believe that his popularity among Egyptians and Arabs at the time is best described through this event. I added a section his resignation and its aftermath.
[edit] Heat
"Emotions, which included telecasters crying on the air, boiled over in the 80-degree heat"
80-degree heat? Is that really correct? Is that even possible? That's a temperature I'd expect in a sauna, not ourdoors. Ossi 20:59, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
- How about 80°F (c.27°C; see Fahrenheit)...? Regards, David Kernow (talk) 15:46, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
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- Ah, that sounds more reasonable. I automatically assumed the temperature to be in Celcius degrees. But yes, the unit should be mentioned. Ossi 00:06, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
