Talk:Gadfly (social)
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The vfd entry seems to have gone missing from that page. Thue 13:15, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- It's still there; second one on June 2. - Hephaestos|ยง 14:27, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
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- I was confused too - it looked as though it had disapeared - I think the link on the article page got de-linked from the vfd page somehow. Mark Richards 15:59, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
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[edit] A book: "The Gadfly"
There is a novel by Ethel Lilian Voynich named "The Gadfly" (and at least two Russian films).
Do you think that this is the same meaning of the word?
--217.237.151.171 16:22, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
[edit] whose trial?
I thought Socrates was put on trial, not Plato:
During his defence when on trial for his life, Plato wrote that Socrates pointed out that dissent,
--MarSch 14:35, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
[edit] negative?
It was my impression that social gadfly is used usually in a negative context, it can be argued that they are really positive, but I thought that people generally used the term as an insult.
[edit] Misquoting Plato
In the article, Plato's Apology of Socrates is quoted: "If you kill a man like me, you will injure yourselves more than you will injure me." That's clearly taken from Apology 30c[1]. But, then, right after this in the article, there is another quotation: "to sting people and whip them into a fury, all in the service of truth." It's not so clear where this is taken from. It looks more like an attempt to paraphrase rather than quote Apology 30e-31a[2], where Socrates actually uses the gadfly-metaphor. But he doesn't mention the "service of truth" in this passage. Isokrates 20:23, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
