Talk:Günther Prien

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What about the intelligence efforts of Abwehr concerning the Scapa flow attack? I have read a book that claims a german Naval officer Alfred Wehring (I`m not sure about the spelling as the book was written in Serbian) lived for more than a decade in Kirkwall under false identity: as a Swiss jewler Albert Orthel (or so). He was picked up by a boat from the Prien`s submarine at a pre-arranged randezvous point and he handed Prien a very precise map of the harbor, and later returned to Germany on board the submarine. Of course he wasn`t made a public hero as he was a spy. It seems that Prien didn`t risk all that much that night (though it was still a brave act by all means).

Veljko Stevanovich

News to me. Not that the layout of Scapa was exactly secret; a U-boat almost penetrated in WW1, too. And KM knew roughly what the dispositions of blockships were. Prien got a little lucky the final ship(s), which would've blocked the channel he used, were delayed...

On a separate ish, let me suggest a "sub aces" page, sim to "flying aces", to include the top aces of WW1 (led by le Perrier) & WW2 (led by Kretchmer, Shepke, Prien, Endrass, & Kvkpn Victor Schütze; on the U.S. side, include O'Kane, Benson, Davenport). Trekphiler 18:41, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Joseph Goebbels by Curt Riess (Hollis & Carter, 1949) indicates that Prien was "liquidated at the beginning of 1945" (based upon articles in a Berlin newspaper in 1946) after considerable time in a concentration camp and a spell in the prison at Torgau. He indicates that Goebbels wanted to use him as a hero, but Prien fell out with his commanders, after some "jealousy" over the Scapa Flow incident which eventually ended with Prien refusing to obey orders and being arrested.

This ridiculous hoax should be placed into the trash bin, and there is absolutely no reason whatever to keep this "An alternative ending?" section in the article. A lot of trash was published by fools and attention-seekers in the immediate post-war years, and this baloney belongs in that category. Cosal 00:57, 18 October 2006 (UTC)