Talk:Full moon cycle

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Hey, we went over this in 2003 when we wrote the page. One of the Wikipedia supervisors had the same objections and removed the article; I salvaged it for a while under my personal page. The adversary conceded when I could show some earlier literature that discussed regularities in the size and timing of the syzygies - still quoted at the end of the article.

All this stuff is factually correct, which is increasingly rare in the Wikipedia. Also at least 2 people (myself and Victor Engel) have been contributing and using this, so it is at least twice as big as a personal pet project. So why remove all this?

Finally, recently someone flagged this article as sub-standard. What exactly are the problems?

Tom Peters 21:37, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

The later part of the article is about a project presented to CALNDR-L to make a lunar calendar that takes accounts of the fumocy to get a better match with moon phases.

This is at best original research and may be seen to be a pet project.

I'm not sure whether it should be included in wikipedia and move it here pending discussion about it.

--- Karl Palmen 12 April 08:35 UT

[edit] Isn't this a vanity article somehow

"The abbreviation fumocy was introduced by Wikipedia user Karl Palmen in the CALNDR-L mailing list in October 2002"

Brings me this to mind:

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As it extends not only to articles but to information or "original research" within articles.

contributed from anonymous IP address and not signed - the opposite of vanity but not right either. Anyway:
  • this has been worked on by at least 3 people, so it's not just a personal pet|vanity thing; where do we draw a line?
  • stuff doesn't appear much in print anymore, so stuff developed on an Internet forum may be valid for an encyclopedia too
  • K.P. coined a word that could be documented; why not mention that fact? If a new thing gets named and catches on, it is often hard to find out where it came from, or there are priority disputes.

Tom Peters 22:28, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

In response,
  • It does not matter how they feel about the article, it matters how the editing and adminstrating body of wikipedia feels.
  • It may be a valid source, but that is not the proper way to cite it.
  • When, and if, "fumocy" becomes of wide-spread use (even if only by a professional astronomer crowd), we will document it. Regardless, it is not in use, and even if it were, it would be encyclopedic only to mention not use, as it is an abbreviation of sorts.

So, I have removed these flaws, and made it a better article. I will bring attention to it, once I figure out how. Thanks for your contributions to this article, Tom. --Jmax- 09:13, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

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