User talk:Fuhghettaboutit/Archive 11

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[edit] Deletion of Mohevian Future Bible

Fuhgettaboutit, you removed my article on the Mohevian Future Bible earlier today. The article was obviously not a test, and I'm not sure why it was removed. A lot of research went into it and it took me over an hour to prepare.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dementropy (talk • contribs) .

Come on mate. A joke can only be taken so far. I actually quite enjoyed that page and I invite you to repost it at Uncyclopedia. It would be quite fitting there. If you did not save a copy of the text, the deleting administrator was User:Awyong Jeffrey Mordecai Salleh, who deleted it here. You could ask him/her to shoot you a copy of the text.--Fuhghettaboutit 12:26, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of U-lik.com

I Started a discussion on my Userpage Ulikleafar about the deletion of U-lik.com. I'de be glad if you can have a look.

Fair enough, your point is right, the article will die from its own death. Nervertheless, rules should apply to everyone .... I am a contributor, I do not take things personnaly. What works for you works for me. ;-) going back to wikipedia France. See ya. PS: thanks for the talk page, i'm starting personnalization ;-) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ulikleafar (talk • contribs) .

[edit] re: Prod

Thanks for the feedback. When I do dead-end patrol, I generally prod things that haven't been touched in awhile, and AFD things that look more contentious. Yesterday on new pages, I was mostly using speedy & AFD; I wasn't sure how likely prod was to stay on a new page. Anyway, I wrote a script to help monitor those, so I'll try that next time. -Steve Sanbeg 19:09, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Great. Actually a script that would help editors monitor solely prodded articles would be very valuable indeed! I usually don't have a problem because I monitor my watchlist very actively, but as it gets bigger and bigger (inevitable), it will become more difficult (I have about 3,000 pages watchlisted currently). Any chance you could describe that script in more detail or post is somewhere? I find that many articles you wouldn't think would make it to the end of Prod actually do, despite that I mostly prod brand new articles and normally leave a {{prodwarning}} on the creator's page. Anyway, the reason I left the message is because many, many editors are unfamiliar with prod and if it was more consistently used, we'd all save buckets of time. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit 20:56, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pura Belpré

Thanks for making the change on my Pura Belpré page!!! I do wish that the URL would not look so ugly.

I'm kind of amazed at the wikipedia system - how quickly you responded to my help request and all.--Rosariolibrarian 14:17, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

You're most welcome. A full response is at the help desk.--Fuhghettaboutit 14:56, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spinach

Re: mistakes in the history of science. Thanks for your suggestion of spinach. It looks like it will fit the bill quite nicely. Unfortunately I'm having a hard time finding a good academic citation for this. Our spinach article references an article in the British Journal of Medicine, which, honestly leaves out much of the important details. The other I've been able to find is in The Skeptic, which is not particularly academic. I have had a hard time locating anything more scholarly. Do you know of anything? Thanks for your time! --best, kevin [kzollman][talk] 20:15, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Glad you liked that tidbit. There's no problem in finding citations. Googling "spinach "decimal point"" brings up many. Online scholarly citations, on the other hand, I too am not having much luck with. Probably the best of a few I found below is the first, which at least has the imprimatur of the BBC.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A11681912
http://archive.theargus.co.uk/2003/11/3/123140.html
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/08/18/the_odd_body_spinach/
http://www.innvista.com/HEALTH/foods/vegetables/spinach.htm
http://health.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=107235
http://www.hindu.com/mag/2005/09/11/stories/2005091100400700.htm
I would try various searches on Google Scholar. I tried the same search terms above, which brought up a number of articles but none of the titles looked like likely prospects. What is it that you're going to be using this for?--Fuhghettaboutit 21:08, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
"decimal point"... Brilliant! All my google searches turned up too much crap, so I only made it through the first few pages. I'll check out those. I'm using these example for my dissertation. Without too many boring details, my dissertation is comparing different community structures for science with respect to their ability to be robust to good faith errors of this sort. Most of the dissertation centers around formal models using tools borrowed from evolutionary game theory, but I wanted to have a few good examples of good faith errors in science. Philosophers (of which I am one) mostly worry about the more extreme cases, like pseudoscience or fraud, and so there aren't many of these sorts of things in the air. Thanks again for all your help! --best, kevin [kzollman][talk] 21:29, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
Don't be so quick to assume others would find it boring. We are, as a class here, very bookish types;-) By the way, another one in the same vein which I researched a few years ago and just remembered is the constantly quoted land speed record for the cheetah. This is not so much a mistake in science as an oft-cited "fact" resting on very little hard science. If I remember correctly, the top speed is predominantly based on one scientist's measurements from the 1950s, and his methodology has been criticized. Personally, what I find fascinating but also infuriating are not the mistakes of science but well known non-facts of science everyone believes to be true—the direction toilets/sinks eddy in is a result of the coriolis effect; eggs can only be stood on their ends during (I forget which) equinox; Alpha Centauri is the closest star to our own (it's not a star, it a three star system) and so on; Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit 22:23, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] re removal of prod tags

Good point about them being freely removable, thank you for reminding me. LinaMishima 05:19, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trabancos River

Thanks for the fixes. I saw what SmackBot had done, but left it in because I have no familiarity with ISBN...err...validity issues. Are the ISBN numbers proper? I relied entirely on the Spanish language featured article authors when adding the references.--Fuhghettaboutit 22:23, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes, they're all valid in that article. Rgds, Rich Farmbrough, 22:29 1 September 2006 (GMT).

[edit] Thanks

Good to hear from you again. You and other editors have been a big help, so of course you all deserve some kind of credit. Dmoon1 04:39, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Total Idiotz

Indeed - I was about to do just that, but it seems Shell Kinney beat me to it! Cheers. --PeruvianLlama(spit) 22:15, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Yup - deleted, several times over, and user has been blocked. :) --PeruvianLlama(spit) 22:47, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Witchfinder General

Hal Raglan has requested a peer review of the Witchfinder General article but has not received any comments. I reviewed the article for him shortly before he nominated it as a Good Article. He posted a message at the Horror Wikiproject talk page, but to no avail. Would you mind critiquing the article for him if you have the time? I'm sure he would appreciate it. Dmoon1 17:56, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks very much for your recent copyedit of the article. Although I made a minor change to one of your edits, I do appreciate most of your additions as being very helpful improvements. Any chance you might have some other suggestions? Anything that needs to be added/clarified/expanded?Hal Raglan 03:37, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Hey Hal. I agree with your change--too many Poes in that sentence; just wanted to clarify (which you did) that they were not Poe films. I was going to go back to the article and look at the next few sections. One thing I might suggest—I don't think there should be any inflexible rules in writing—but I have often seen at WP:FAC people object to an article's lead section if it is less than three paragraphs. The present introduction is certainly long enough to be broken into three paragraphs. By the way, congrats on a very well done and interesting article.--Fuhghettaboutit 04:23, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Okay, I've split the introduction into three separate paragraphs, in a hopefully logical manner. I think it looks better and possibly now reads a little easier. Thanks for your help.Hal Raglan 05:33, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Any chance you can take another look at the article? I've self-nominated it as a Featured Article candidate and so far, after two days, nobody has bothered to Support, Oppose or even Comment on it. If you think it currently meets the FA criteria, could you vote accordingly? If you think it needs further work, any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.--Hal Raglan 16:13, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for voting Support. And thanks once again for your suggestions and copyediting, which have helped to improve the article.--Hal Raglan 04:42, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
You're welcome:-)
Thanks again for your assistance! I didn't even know the FA had happened until I received your message.--Hal Raglan 21:23, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] billiard-stub

The reason I didn't move it was because there were three similar stubs - {{cuesport-stub}}, {{pool-stub}}, and {{snooker-stub}} - that needed to be moved. Which one should I have chosen? I decided to leave each of those as they were and create a new one, which all three would redirect to. I'm not sure if that was the "perfect" way of handling that, but it seemed right to me. Have a great day and happy editing! ~ Amalas rawr =^_^= 13:25, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for your help

Thanks Fuhgettaboutit for your welcome to the English Wikipedia, and thanks for having corrected the grammar in the Zamora Canton article. I'd like to ask you a further help with the History of Zamora-Chinchipe Province article. I'll be very grateful for your help.

marcojim 18:43, 10 September 2006 (UTC) (Marcojim 17:49, 10 September 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Missing year/place of birth

I also only recently discovered the categories. I really like the way these editorial categories work because it seems that the addition triggers people who have access to the missing information adding it. I suppose they have the article on their watchlist. Enjoy adding them. I know I do. Erechtheus 05:48, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cleaning up my Talk page

Thank you for removing that personal attack from my Talk page. I went ahead and reverted to an earlier version, since the edit was vandalism. This had the effect of reverting your edit too; I just wanted to drop you a note to make sure you didn't mistakenly think I was angry at you for editing my Talk page or something. Thanks again! --Slowking Man 08:58, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome.--Fuhghettaboutit 12:39, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright Violations and Temporary Pages

Hi and thanks for pointing out my wrong use of quotes. Just getting started around here. Guess I need more time in the sandbox. But I did make a temporary page for Henry H. Houston which I think is not a violation. When will that page replace the earlier? Thank you. Reikishisugiru.

I wish I could tell you exactly when. The article has to be reviewed by an administrator and it depends on the backlog. In the meantime, I have added categories to the temporary article and a stub tag, plus some minor changes to conform with WP:MOS. As I stated when I tagged the article, It was obvious that you were editing in good faith, unaware of our policy on copyrights. I hope this won't sour you on the site in general. Many newcomers run afoul of a policy or two when they first arrive. Your new article is a perfect stub, and I hope you'll stick around and contribute more.
Oh, and a little tip: in signing your post, you typed your name out and surrounding it by brackets. An easier way to sign your posts is to type four tildes like this ~~~~. When you hit save the tildes automatically signs for you and place a timestamp. The way you signed doesn't actually point to your name. Your name is at [[User:Reikishisugiru]]. When you sign with the tildes it takes out the "User:" part by making what's known as a piped link, like this: [[User:Reikishisugiru|Reikishisugiru]]. The pipe, is the bar in the middle. The text on the left side tells the wiki software what to link to. The text on the right tells the software what to display.--Fuhghettaboutit 22:18, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Zamora-Chinchipe Province article

Hello Fuhgettaboutit. Thanks again for the grammar revision. According to the History of Zamora-Chinchipe. there weren't two provinces before 1953, there were two principal cantons that were fused in one to make the new province name. I've changed some information and left just the main date of the province creation, to name: November 10, 1953. I will continue translating from Spanish to English more articles regarding to Zamora-Chinchipe, and I will need your help with them. Thanks for your help.

marcojim 11:19, 12 September 2006 (UTC) (Marcojim

Glad to pitch in, and like I said on your talk page, please fix anything I get wrong.--Fuhghettaboutit 11:20, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

Updated DYK query On 13 September 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Saqqara Bird, which you nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

(Self reminder)--Fuhghettaboutit 12:24, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Difference

What's the difference between pool and billiards?? Georgia guy 01:17, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:BK proposal

Hi. How've you been? I just wanted to let you know that Francis Schonken (talk • contribs) unilaterally decided to proclaim the death of your proposal for the notability of books. Now I have reverted that but I thought you might like to weigh in. It struck me as a bit of a dick move and I told him so (in more respectful terms). Anyways, I do think that we should go over the talk page and try to maybe soften the proposal a bit and simplify it even at the cost of leaving some ground uncovered so that we can maybe set up a straw poll or something to really get a feel of how people feel about it. Cheers.Pascal.Tesson 07:46, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

By the way, I have reviewed the examples a bit and this led me to renominate this book which I think is a pretty good example of a book which fails the criteria and miraculously survived and AfD on no consensus a year ago. I'm not trying to make a point because I truly think this article should disappear but I think it's reassuring to see that perhaps the criteria do serve some purpose after all! Pascal.Tesson 19:31, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Well, I hope so! Seems like a good idea. However, I like to avoid even the appearance of any bias and for that reason, I don't think it would be proper for me to join in that debate under the posture of using it as a test. Given my status wih regard to the criteria, my input there could easily be interpreted as motivated not by the merits of the article's notability but as stumping for the criteria. I think I've said it before but if I haven't been clear, thanks for the collaboration.--Fuhghettaboutit 20:08, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Warren Kinsella

This case is now closed and the results have been published at the link above. Arthur Ellis is banned indefinitely from Warren Kinsella and articles which relate to Canadian politics and its blogosphere. Any article which mentions Warren Kinsella is considered a related article for the purposes of this remedy. This includes all talk pages other than the talk page of Mark Bourrie. Arthur Ellis is required to use one registered account. For the Arbitration Committee. FloNight 03:30, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: RNLB Guy and Claire Hunter

Yes, I am aware of that; that's why I undeleted it. It was a copyvio, but now it is not a copyvio. See where I'm getting at? —this is messedrocker (talk) 00:58, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Uh, yes. However, your edit summary does not give the impression you knew it had been a copyvio. In fact, it is exactly what I would expect if you thought the copyvio tag was mistakenly placed since you didn't say something like "no longer a copyvio; author has released under GFDL". Now that I know that you knew, and you know why I didn't know that you knew, I think we both know everything we need to know on this! Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit 01:16, 21 September 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Thanks from a newbie

Thanks for the good advice on helping with new pages. I noticed them today, and thought, even a novice like me can help get rid of high school kids' vanity pages. Hope I haven't been wrong on TOO many of them, and I'll use editing tags and leave notes on talk pages the next time I do it.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by FisherQueen (talk • contribs) .

You're welcome. From what I've seen, you've made good decisions and your tagging has been correct. Just be careful that the articles fit within the criteria given at WP:CSD.--Fuhghettaboutit 23:16, 21 September 2006 (UTC)


[edit] another thank you

I'm grateful for the welcome. That move feature you mentioned on my talk page, I have searched through the various skins enabling the quickbar and I still cannot seem to find it. I originally looked for it when I first did the move. Is there a link i can type to manually call the move for future articles? I believe i'll leave the cut and paste job I did because of the small difference it would make in the article Marek Kudlacz 02:48, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of Shooter Whores

You're right for submitting the Shooter Whores article for deletion, I hadnt read through the criteria. Sorry about that. It just hard to find things to contribute when you're 14. =] Could you post your reply on my talk page? Im unsure as to how everything works around here yet.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Panicofbeliever (talk • contribs) .

[edit] Thanks for the revert!

Thanks for repairing the vandalism of my userpage by Urmum1991. I didn't even notice he'd vandalized me until I saw your note to him on his talk page and checked my history. Wow, what a Wiki milestone for me. -FisherQueen 13:01, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] On Fluvanna's Colonial Regiments/Militia

Many thanks for the recommendations and updates. Wikipedia newbie here (at least when it comes to adding content), so I appreciate the kid gloves.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Shaun Kenney (talk • contribs) .

You're most welcome.--Fuhghettaboutit 20:14, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Use of warnings

Hi Fuhghettaboutit, thanks for your WP:AIV report on User:Qaz786 who've I've blocked indefinitely now. In future, please don't use {{bv}} repeatedly. Please see Wikipedia:Vandalism#Warnings for a guide on how to properly escalate warnings. Thanks. --  Netsnipe  ►  16:03, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Did you examine the nature of that user's vandalism? I have many times used a series of test warnings, escalating with each successive one. However, for a first edit, which was creating an article with the text "mother fuckerz u cant c me hahaha bitches u no!!!!!!!!! suk dik an choke bitch!!!muahahahahahhahahha" I feel perfectly justified with starting with a bv-n. Successive edits were just as egregious. The next was to insert "haha queen!! my ass. she dnt do fuk. ill wipe my ass wid da crwn muahhahahah bithc hu eva wrote dis csn suk my ballz!!!" into Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom. There is nothing in the section you cite to, which I am familiar with, which speaks to the issue presented. The section does state that warning "need not be used successively," but in no way prohibits doing so. What exactly, then, do you think should have been done differently?--Fuhghettaboutit 16:47, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
The real point I'm trying to make is that one test4 and/or a bv tag is enough. Leave it at that. Posting 4 bv's in a row just challenges them to vandalise even more. --  Netsnipe  ►  17:08, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Got ya. With that clarification, I think you're right. Those edits are a call for attention and I was giving him or her more. Don't feed the trolls. I (obviously) thought you were referring to a failure to start with a more lenient warning. Thanks.--Fuhghettaboutit 17:29, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kirsten Akkerman afd

Thanks for the constructive criticism! I didn't know the drmspeedy tags existed. I know PROD tags removed without comment often get routed to AfD, so I figured that would apply to CSD tags as well. Should I do as you suggest for this article, or keep it on AfD since it's already there? Gotyear 22:51, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the compliment. I've swatted vandals and did little cleanups as an anon ("I am not an IP address, I am a free man!") for a couple months, but this is my first AfD. I'm glad I got the process right, even though the reason was slightly off. Gotyear 00:28, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Welcome message

Thank you very much! Speirdyke 16:49, 15 October 2006 (UTC) :)

[edit] Re:W.E.G.O. Article

I don't really understand how this works to be honest. I created an article on W.E.G.O. and recieved a message from you about speedy deletion tags, now my article doesn't exist. Did you delete it? Can I find what I originally wrote and improve it, or is it permenantly gone because I breached a rule or something? Sorry for ignorance.. KashewNutz

The article was speedily deleted because it was about a person, group, company or website that did not state any basis for notability. We have various notability guidelines. I don't remember what the article was about but for people see: WP:BIO, for a band see WP:BAND for a website see WP:WEB, and for a company see WP:CORP. Basically, if an article fails to assert notability then it can be deleted quickly, without debate, which is called "speedy deletion." If an article asserts notability, then it can still be deleted, but only after debate. In this case, I tagged the article for speedy deletion and the reviewing administrator agreed that no basis for notability was asserted. If you want to view the log for the deletion go here. You can contact the deleting administrator User:Johan Elisson and request that a copy of the text be provided to you for improvement.--Fuhghettaboutit 12:32, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Just replying back, thanks for the warm welcome! *takes a swig of the ol' knifey moloko* --Synthemesc 03:29, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome droogie:-)--Fuhghettaboutit 04:18, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] HeartattaCk

I believe the decision to delete this article was made in error, so I have asked for a deletion review. Since you were involved in the AfD on this, I wanted to inform you so that you might weigh in. PT (s-s-s-s) 17:30, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

I see it got wrapped up quickly.--Fuhghettaboutit 03:14, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] W00ty edit conflict

No problem! Tonywalton  | Talk

:-)--Fuhghettaboutit 12:19, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for fixing the coding on my talk page :P Fredil Yupigo 19:58, 21 October 2006 (UTC) (Why does it keep logging me out even though I always check "remember me"?)

[edit] DYK

Updated DYK query On October 26, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Alba Bible, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Blnguyen (bananabucket) 08:10, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Great. Thanks for all the hard work in keeping the DYK section rolling.--Fuhghettaboutit 12:12, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Girl Talk EP

Hey, I removed the line about finding the Girl Talk EP Bone Hard Zaggin on myspace; I hadn't considered that to be "blatant advertising," rather I thought it would be a nice link for fans to find the music, although I guess that's not really appropriate for Wikipedia. Do you have any other problems with it? Another user doesn't think the EP is notable enough to have a page.--PlanetSurfer 16:25, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi PlanetSurfer. Sorry for not getting back to you quickly. I understand now, and was under the misapprehension that the band was entirely unknown and the album was only available through myspace. Thanks for clarifying.--Fuhghettaboutit 22:41, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pasta?

i think I had a plate of Fuhgettaboutit wiith meat sauce and mozzarella cheese...Mmmm...—The preceding unsigned comment was added by MykeHatesRap (talk • contribs) .

Hey Myke. I hate rap too. However, vandalizing the Eminim article will not help your cause. I suppose the above is meant as some type of taunt. Thanks for that.--Fuhghettaboutit 20:45, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
For your exceptional work in reverting vandalism. Enjoy! Sharkface217 21:15, 31 October 2006 (UTC)


Thank you, and you're quite welcome. Sharkface217 21:30, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

I greatly appreciate your post to my talk page, both for the encouragement, and the "tips to a newbie."

I've been reading articles in my areas of interest (and, at the risk of betraying a lack of modesty) expertise... getting a sense for norms, in style and content. Until I've had a little more experience, I am trying to stay well clear of obviously contentious issues, no easy task given that religion and politics are the subjects where I hang out most.

So, at this point, I'm stickin' to the three-foot section of the pool... as I get nearer the deep end, it's nice to have your offer of assistance from a more experienced wikipedian.

Regards,

J-M Jgilhousen 03:50, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

You're most welcome. Any problems, questions, technical matters give me a shout. You're right that editing articles on religion and politics can lead to sparks. If you're on the side of enforcing npov, and back up any substantive edits with reliable sources, you'll be on the...ahem...side of the angels. One recommendation: If you want to see our norms in style and content in action, check out featured articles and the gauntlet they pass through to reach to reach that status at featured article candidates.--Fuhghettaboutit 05:25, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
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