User:Friday/Sandbox

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14. What do you think of the use of IRC versus on-wiki discussion? If the crats want to talk amongst themselves, how do you think this should be done?

Note: it may be wise to come back to this in a couple weeks time, if this is still seen as a problem.

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Contents 1 Statement of the dispute 1.1 Description 1.2 Powers misused 1.3 Applicable policies 1.4 Evidence of trying and failing to resolve the dispute 1.5 Users certifying the basis for this dispute 1.6 Other users who endorse this statement 2 Response 3 Outside view 4 Discussion

[edit] Statement of the dispute

Recent discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Request_for_block_review involved Cyde's block of Kappa. The block was generally seen as unhelpful, and was undone by another admin. This, by itself, is not a huge deal. However, some people commented that improper blocks by Cyde had happened before. Cyde's response was needlessly rude and combative. I wasn't sure whether to consider this a user conduct RFC for incivility, or an admin RFC for questionable blocks. To me, it appears that both issues are a problem.

[edit] Description

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[edit] Powers misused

• Blocking (log):

1. {Kappa}
2. {CygnetSaIad}

[edit] Applicable policies

• Blocking policy

1. {explain violation of blocking policy here}

• Civility policy

1. put stuff here

[edit] Evidence of trying and failing to resolve the dispute

I disagreed with Cyde's block of CygnetSaIad, and said so at User_talk:CygnetSaIad#Post_Cyde-block. Cyde then posted on my talk page in a fairly inflammatory matter, seeUser_talk:Friday#Find_something_better_to_do. Given that Cyde apparently believes I'm engaging in some harassment campaign against him, further attempts to resolve the dispute with him personally may be ill-advised. I'd like input from a broader section of users. I realize Cyde and I could be considered "in a dispute" so it's possible my own judgement is clouded on this issue. Friday (talk) 19:28, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

A puzzle for the even mildy inquisitive. What is the burden of proof on a blocking admin? Of course, only after being blocked was the link to the actual contributor shown. - brenneman ^{L} 04:55, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Users certifying the basis for this dispute

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[edit] Response

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[edit] Outside view

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[edit] Discussion

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