Talk:Friends University
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[edit] Urban Legend
Stop posting what you are calling an urban legend. The information isn't relevant to Friends University. Post this on snopes.com, not on Wiki. This is the same as someone scrawling dildo on a bathroom wall. It is offensive and meant to be offensive and has no purpose whatsoever in the information about Friends University.
- In order for it to be included in Wikipedia, I think the supporters of the urban legend need to provide a source for it. Then, I think it should go on a page dealing with urban legends, not on the page about the university. It may be notable as an urban legend, if it actually exists, but it is not notable as a fact about the university, which is what this page is about. Logophile 07:06, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
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- If you actually follow the link to false etymologies (provided) you will find that there is a source for this as an urban legend. And, although this may not be the most notable fact about the notable, th fact that the university is subject of an extremely widespread urban legend is suficiently notable to be included on wikipedia. this is actually to the university's benefit -- a broad portion of the population believes that this univeristy is ur once was "FUCK". Having a short note about this false etymology on the university's article will be helpful in dispelling this mistaken notion. Interestingstuffadder 16:39, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
This has nothing to do with the university. I am not disputing its accuracy, I am saying that it doesn't belong on this page. Figure out what an encylopedia is all about and you will understand what I am saying. As you rightly point out, this information is already included on the FUCK page. Considering the etimology is covered on the other page, it is redundant here. Take it off the other page and then I could see it going here. The inclusion of this epithet on this page is base, crude, derisive and is meant to be so. It is also uninformative about the history of Friends University, either good or ill.Heatmonkey
Rather than leaving it as it is or deleting it entirely, it might be a better idea to reduce it down to one sentence in a group of other "trivia" about the university. Such as, "Contrary to urban legend, the University was never known as 'Friends University of Central Kansas'", and linking that to the article on "FUCK" (although I no longer see any mention of it in the FUCK article). I'm intending to put some trivia in, so I'll see how that fits. Then the section can be called "trivia", rather than an entire section devoted to this. ----Steve 03:32, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm going to pull it for now. If others want to work through the comprimise and replace feel free, but until it's settled let's just remove it. --Ahc 14:02, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] History of the U
I work at Friends, and have access to some works that might talk about its history. I would like to spend some time compiling that, and just wanted to make sure nobody else is doing the same. If I don't see any response here saying that it's already underway, I will begin. Also, someone with a little more knowledge on Quakerism will want to copy-edit what I write. ----Steve 19:53, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
- Don't worry too much about getting the Quakerism covered here. That's covered elsewhere, but if you have access to documents that tell the history of the U, please do work that information in! Also please remember to include references whenever possible. If the formatting is off others will fix it. --Ahc 05:55, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
- Cool. I found the minutes of the MAYM... I wonder if the U is mentioned in there at all... I wish I had more time than just my lunch hour to study this.
- I just put in my first contribution to the history section. I intend to do a little cleaning up, and your comments are welcome. All that info came from the same book, so if I did the reference wrong, I'll freely admit it. Have fun critiqing it. My next task is to look up a local newspaper article that talks about the purchase of the land, and look in the minutes of the kansas yearly meeting. Should be a couple hours before I have that. ----Steve 00:24, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
- Looks good. I made a couple of small format tweaks, but nothing serious. One word of caution, try to avoid doing much original research. Wikipedia isn't a collection of research papers from primary resources, or a summation of secondary resources. Where the right line is can be subjective, but hanle with care. --Ahc 14:08, 29 September 2006 (UTC)