Talk:Freeway and expressway revolts

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Has anyone thought about including Toronto in this article? it was once supposed to have freeways criss-crossing throughout the city, of which two were completed, one was severely truncated(after a protest led by Jane Jacobs) an interchange is all that remains of one, the extension of one of the completed highways that was meant to serve as another was recently destroyed, and the rest were never built.

Doesn't Milwakee have a compelling Freeway revolt story? Milwaukee plans to tear down Park-East Freeway. Retrieved on July 15, 2005. --Paul 06:12, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

If it does, feel free to add content describing it. I'm insufficiently familiar with the events in Milwaukee to write such a section myself; living in Portland I am familiar with the freeway revolts here. Any city's freeway revolt story is welcome on this page.

I'd love to see a Marylander write about the Baltimore freeway revolts; the fact that Interstate 70 ends in a park-and-ride is a good story.

EngineerScotty 06:46 PM 16 July 2005 (PDT)

I-70 is not the only freeway to end (ironically?) at a park and ride--look at I-95 at northern I-495 near DC. Also see Boston --Jason McHuff 04:21, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Also, where did Six freeway routes were proposed. Four of the six were eventually constructed in Portland come from? It contridicts the later listing of three proposed (the Rose City Freeway, the Interstate 505 freeway, and the Mt. Hood Freeway) and the plan map which lists more (see Highway to Hell link). And Milwaukee does have a lot of unbuilt freeways. Lastly, the only real diff between Salem Parkway and I-305 is a lack of interchanges --Jason McHuff 05:12, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

The text should say "six freeway routes were planned, of those four were built. The original proposal by Moses (described with a picture in the WW article) had many additional routes, such as the Prescott Freeway, that never made it to the planning/design stage. As near as I can tell, the two freeways that were planned/designed but not built were the Mt. Hood Freeway, and Interstate 505 (Oregon). The others were simply were never more than lines on a map. Regarding the Salem Parkeway/I-305, the lack of interchanges is a big deal--constructing an interstate-grade freeway (even if only 4 lanes) along with interchanges is far more disruptive to neighborhoods--both in terms of real estate which must be condemned, and in terms of noise--than the Parkway proposal which was built.

At any rate, the article needs correction. In addition, one of the links is broken; it is retrievable from the google cache but the site (www.pdxplan.org) appears to no longer exist.-- --EngineerScotty 21:27, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

I've made some corrections to the article. One issue that I haven't been able to figure out is how Harbor Drive fits into Moses' proposal. It isn't shown on the map. In addition, it was built in 1950, only seven years after Moses was brought to Portland--it may well have already been on the drawing board before Moses came to town, thus not part of his proposal. --EngineerScotty 23:35, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Los Angeles

Nothing about freeway revolts in Los Angeles? There were major freeway revolts in the 1960s and 1970s which were successful in preventing the Beverly Hills Freeway and Laurel Canyon Freeway to be built (something most residents of Los Angeles' Westside should be thankful for) and which limited the construction of the Marina Freeway.

Go ahead and add it! The Long Beach Freeway in Pasadena probably should be added to the list as well. I'm not familiar with the LA area, so I'll let someone else add this to the article. --EngineerScotty 18:38, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] San Francisco Central Freeway

I made two changes. The page said the top deck was removed in 1991. That is incorrect. In 1991 only the damaged section north to Turk and Golden Gate was demolished, leaving only the Oak and Fell ramps. In 1996 the top (southbound) deck was removed, and in early 2003 the remaining lower deck was removed.

This article is regarding the 1996 closure for the upper deck removal http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/1996/08/21/MN17939.DTL&hw=central+freeway&sn=004&sc=831 and this one is regarding tearing down the lower deck. They even had a goodbye party. How cool. http://www.mistersf.com/farewell/fwfellramp.htm