Talk:Frederick Douglass

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[edit] Klan acts

i have a question about The Klan Acts. does anyone know what they are? if someone finds a site that has some good info, i think we should add a link to it. Osmo250 03:19, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Laws in various USA states say that conspiracy to commit violence against particular groups because of hatred of same groups is illegal. Wikkrockiana 06:10, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

I was going to add a lot about Douglass' childhood to the beginning, does anyone think this would hurt the article? --Weirdo59 22:39, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Not if its in good formatt and you add one pic. to go along with a long section.

[edit] Harriet Bailey

The person who wrote this link her name. When you click on the link for her name it just takes you right back to this article. Im just assuming this is becuz there not alot of info on her and this is the only article on wiki that talks about her.....

[edit] Alternate History

Is the discussion on the science fiction alternative histories appopriate for a general article such as this? I don't think knowledge of the Turtledove books is necessary for an understanding of Douglass or his impact. I think that section should be taken out.

- Nobody replied, so I am taking this section out. I can't see how anyone thinks this belongs in a serious encylopedia article on Frederick Douglass.

Science fiction alternative histories are not appropriate for an encyclopedia article. Kaldari 16:00, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] year of birth

1818 should be listed as Douglass' birth year; per Library of Congress cataloging data and reference in William McFeely's 1991 biography.

Mclawton 14:37, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

  • There seems to be a lot of disagreement about this. About half the sources I've seen say 1817, about half 1818. I guess LoC would be as good as anyone as an authority. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 16:20, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cultural depictions of Frederick Douglass

I've started an approach that may apply to Wikipedia's Core Biography articles: creating a branching list page based on in popular culture information. I started that last year while I raised Joan of Arc to featured article when I created Cultural depictions of Joan of Arc, which has become a featured list. Recently I also created Cultural depictions of Alexander the Great out of material that had been deleted from the biography article. Since cultural references sometimes get deleted without discussion, I'd like to suggest this approach as a model for the editors here. Regards, Durova 18:33, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Way overly revised

The usage of new terms such as "African American" should be declared unfit for a negro who lived in the 19th century. He never said that he was an "African American." There is nothing wrong with the word NEGRO.GhostofSuperslum 23:05, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Not worth a hill of beans

The population of the United States doubles every 50 to 60 years, ergo, it will soon double from 300 million people to 600 million people. Granting the descendants of slaves a new name is not going to feed them when the population of the United States passes the number at which food becomes unattainable by the poor negroes. The name "African American" is not worth a hill of beans. GhostofSuperslum 16:22, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Hi. Wikipedia is WP:NOT a soapbox; if you have suggestions for improving the article, we'd love to hear them. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 16:24, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I am very surprised

At the length of this article. One would expect a much larger article on such a historically noteworthy individual as Frederick Douglass. Wikipediarules2221 04:44, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

•The article was copy/pasted and so was deleted.

Very weak article for such a famous person. Uncle John's Bathroom Reader Plunges Into Great Lives says at page 286 that he was born Frederick Baily in 1818 in Easton Maryland, that he only saw his mother a few times, was raised by his grandmother Betsy Baily, that he never met his father and it was rumoured his white owner Aaron Anthony was his father. I recommend you get permission from Uncle John and incorporate his article to add some substance to this article. DParker.

[edit] Needs a real Bio

There should definitely be more of a bio here - look at William Lloyd Garrison. Frederick Douglass was an absolutely huge figure in abolitionism, and deserve far more than a cursory few sentences of biography.

[edit] Bio?

Why is there no biography for Fredrick Douglass? I don't think that a few quotes, some trivia and a quick summary of him is adequate for an encyclopedia entry on one of the most important figures in African-American rights. I assume that there's some reconstruction of a biography going on, possibly a result of some vandalism, but in the event that there is just no bio, I think that somebody should write one.

Many people have whined on this discussion page abut the need for a real bio. If you feel that this is so important, why don't you write a bio instead of complaining that no one else has?

[edit] Quote re: political party

"I am a Republican, a black, dyed in the wool Republican, and I never intend to belong to any other party than the party of freedom and progress." If this quote is kept, there should be some note as to what party he was referring to, since the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_the_United_States article doesn't show the current republican party as existing during his lifetime. Personally I don't see why this quote would be kept at all though, I certainly hope he's left a more lasting legacy than that. -- David Alves

edit: The main article for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_%28United_States%29 shows it as starting in 1856, but I still think that quote is a poor choice for inclusion.

It is intended to reflect "small r republicanism" ideals moreso than the party ideals, though at that point in time, the two were essentially one and the same. Piuro 08:07, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

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