Talk:Fred Noonan

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I have never come across Noonan as being referred to as JoJo. I wonder if the author might clarify this by providing a reference? (Jackie Ferrari 19:11, 10 December 2006 (UTC))

I've put back "celestial" navigation skills to differentiate this method from the "radio" navigation they planned on using once they were in the vicinity of Howland. Noonan was an expert in "celestial", and apparently did get them to within miles of Howland, however it was the failure of the "radio navigation" element that thwarted their final approach.

Noonan's importance in the aviation industry is as the navigator who mapped several commercial routes throughout the Pacific for Pan Am during the 1930s. His apparent demise as Amelia Earhart's navigator is noteworthy but not central to his contribution to aviation, and in my opinion it would be misleading to mention his famous association with her in the first line of the article. Wyss 03:33, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)

According to TIGHAR's website, the Noonan born in Illinois was Fred C. Noonan. They believe that Fred J. Noonan was born in Norwich, England. If this is true, and it turns out that Noonan perished on Gardner Island, then this would be ironic, because the name of the ship that was wrecked there was the SS Norwich.

In around 1998 a TIGHAR researcher/member did find a birth certificate for a Frederick Joseph Noonan born July 14, 1891 in Norwich, England. It's also true that there's a birth certificate in existence for a Fred C. Noonan born in Warren Co., Illinois in 1899 (almost certainly not the navigator, for a few reasons). The commonly accepted date and place of birth for the Pan Am navigator Frederick Joseph Noonan, is still April 4, 1893 in Cook County, Illinois, but there's no US birth certificate. I'll look into this a bit more. Re the Norwich City, yes, it could be ironic. I've also long had a "funny" feeling that if Noonan landed on Gardner, he may very well have been aware of the Norwich City's earlier fate and had likely even seen her in service when he was serving on merchant ships. Wyss 23:29, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)

• There's strong evidence Noonan stated in a voter registration application in Louisiana (1930) that he was born April 4, 1893 in Cook County, Illinois. This also fits more reliably with his maritime records in the US national archives. Wyss 00:08, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)

A baptismal entry confirms that he was born Frederick Joseph Noonan in Chicago april 4 1893.(Jackie Ferrari 22:36, 8 December 2006 (UTC))

Another irony is that the Frederick C(rescent) Noonan mentioned above actually sailed on the same ship as Fred Noonan (the IRIONA).(Jackie Ferrari 22:36, 8 December 2006 (UTC))

I have put Fred Noonan's genealogy onto the Noonan Family website. (Jackie Ferrari 22:36, 8 December 2006 (UTC))

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