Wikipedia:France-related topics notice board
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This page is a notice board for things particularly relevant to all Wikipedians working on articles on France, France-related or Francophone topics. Please refer to this article's talk page for related discussions, and add this page to your watchlist to keep abreast of changes and news.
[edit] News and announcements
(please update as needed)
- Welcome to the France-related topics notice board! Lets try build up the French and Francophone area of the en Wikipedia.
- For reference on notice boards, see Wikipedia:Notice board for India-related topics.
- New : France tasks template created.
[edit] France Wikiportal
The Portal:France is an entry-point into France-related articles on the English Wikipedia. Selected articles, pictures and persons are changed monthly. For information on wikiportal maintenance, see Wikipedia:Portal/Directory. There is also Portal:Paris for Paris-related articles and Portal:Military history of France.
[edit] Featured articles
The following France-related articles have become Featured articles, which means that they been identified as among the best articles produced by the Wikipedia community.
These articles have become featured articles and have appeared on the Main Page:
- Médecins Sans Frontières
- List of French monarchs
- Franks
- Armand Jean du Plessis, Cardinal Richelieu
- First Crusade
- Second Crusade
- French law on secularity and conspicuous religious symbols in schools
- Blaise Pascal
- Michel Foucault
- Louis XIV of France
- Battle of Normandy
- Battle of the Bulge
- Battle of the Somme (1916)
- War of the League of Cambrai
- War of the Spanish Succession
- World War I
- Samuel Beckett
- Joan of Arc
- Military history of France
- Western Front (World War I)
- Battle of Austerlitz
These articles have become featured articles:
- The Adventures of Tintin
- Olivier Messiaen
- Nicolas Sarkozy
- War of the Fifth Coalition
- New Italian War of 1521 - notable for Francis I of France's defeat at Pavia
These lists have become featured lists:
- List of French monarchs
- List of tallest buildings and structures in the Paris region
- Cultural depictions of Joan of Arc
[edit] Featured article candidates
Following is a list of France-related featured article candidates. Please contribute toward making them featured articles by voting and copyediting to remedy potential objections.
[edit] Requests for peer review
Following is a list of France-related articles submitted for peer review (an important step toward becoming a featured article). Please contribute by copyediting to remedy potential objections.
[edit] Wikipedia Conventions
[edit] Proper names and titles
In Wikipedia article titles, French noble titles are currently listed in two different ways:
- in English translation (Duke of, Count of...) for historical figures and royalty most well-known by their English forms.
- in French for other cases, maintaining the French title spelling (seigneur, chevalier, marquis, duc, comte) and the de.
Furthermore, in the second case, capitalization is currently chaotic:
- in French with lowercase spelling: comtesse de, marquis de... (e.g. Marie de Rabutin-Chantal, marquise de Sévigné; Catherine de Vivonne, marquise de Rambouillet; Pierre de Bourdeille, seigneur de Brantôme; François Hédelin, abbé d'Aubignac; Jean François Paul de Gondi, cardinal de Retz; this is the correct form in French and is the form used in article titles on the French wiki)
- in French with capital spelling: Comtesse de, Marquis de... (e.g. Charles de Secondat, Baron de Montesquieu; Georges-Louis Leclerc, Comte de Buffon; Constantin-François de Chassebœuf, Comte de Volney; this is a Franco-English hybrid form which fits with capitalization rules of an English-user).
The current concensus is that all articles with French titles using de should have the title in lowercase. For more on these issues, see Wikipedia:Naming conventions (names and titles).
[edit] City names
Where possible, articles on cities and communes in France should go under [[placename]]. Where disambiguation is needed, articles should use the "comma convention" and go under [[placename, département x]]. Thus Tours, but Duras, Lot-et-Garonne and Montreuil, Seine-Saint-Denis. Note that on the French wikipedia, disambiguation is done with the "parentheses convention" and cities appear as [[placename (département x)]]. (See also Wikipedia:Naming conventions (city names)).
[edit] Titles of works of art
In Wikipedia article titles, French titles are currently listed in several different ways:
- in English translation, if the work of art is well-known by its title in English
- in French (with redirects from the English title), if it is more well-known by its title in French.
Capitalization is currently chaotic. For consistency sake (and for esthetic reasons), it is suggested that the first word of the title after the definite (le, la, les, l') or indefinite (un, une, des) articles be capitalized, as well as any proper name or place name. Examples:
- La Peau de chagrin (not "La peau de chagrin" or "La Peau de Chagrin")
- L'Œuvre
- Le Ventre de Paris
[edit] Biographical data
For smaller communes, one should include the name of the French département after the town or city name.
[edit] Recently-created articles
The following recently-created articles have a France or Francophone related topic. Feel free to add to the list, by giving article title and creator of the article (items from recently-created articles may also be added to the "Did you know..." section of the French portal).
- First Employment Contract (created by Flamurai)
- DADVSI (created by David.Monniaux)
- French West India Company (created by Brian0918)
- Louis Pergaud (created by Jackyd101)
- NRJ Music Awards (translated from French Wikipedia by Endroit)
- Abbey of Fontenay (created by ALoan, part of a number of new World Heritage Sites pages)
- Anti-Sacrilege Act (created by Tazmaniacs)
- Gérald De Palmas (translated from French Wikipedia on Jul 29, 2006 by Endroit)
- French pop music (created on Jul 30, 2006 by Endroit). I just started this article, and I'm trying to make it France-oriented, to distinguish it from Belgian-pop & Canadian-pop musics. Also if possible, I'd like to incorporate it into Music of France article. Any help will be appreciated. Please discuss in Talk:French pop music or Talk:Music of France--Endroit 07:48, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
- Château de Saint-Germain-en-Laye, Château de Bellevue, Château de Madrid and others (created by ALoan, included on DYK main page)
- Bouchra Ghezielle and Bouabdallah Tahri stubs by me. - Darwinek 20:33, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
- Strasbourg astronomical clock (created by Schwilgue) - (needs to be wikified, and portions of Strasbourg Cathedral should be merged into it)
- Petit-Montrouge (translated from French Wikipedia by Mathew5000) (I had some difficulties with the translation; see Talk:Petit-Montrouge -- any help would be appreciated)
- List of usurpers (created by Eixo). Could someone who knows more about French history than I do help fill in?
- Alphabetical list of members of the National Constituent Assembly of 1789 (created by Biruitorul). Lots of red links in there.
- French Military Mission to Japan (1867) (created September 17, 2006 by PHG)
- Portal:Military history of France (created September 24, 2006 by UberCryxic)
- Château de Rosny-sur-Seine and other châteaux (created/translated by User:DVD R W Oct 27, 2006)
- François-Urbain Domergue - translated by Dangherous
- Château de Courances - by User:Wetman Nov 6, 2006
- Princess Louise-Marie of France - by User:ALoan Nov 7, 2006
- Pierre de L'Estoile - by User:Charles Matthews Nov 18, 2006
- Henri de Gaulle & De Gaulle family - by User:Biruitorul Dec 4, 2006
- Abraham Bosse - significantly expanded by User:Johnbod Dec 8-10, 2006
[edit] Requests for comment
Please add new requests to the top of the list.
- Economy of Paris see that article's talk page
[edit] Collaboration opportunities
The France-related topics notice board maintains the following to do list : Template:France tasks. Please update as needed.
[edit] French Collaboration Project
The French Collaboration Project (WP:FCP) is an effort to fill gaps in the English Wikipedia (on any topic, and not specifically France-related topics) through translation of high quality articles from the French Wikipedia and, generally, to improve the quality of articles in the English Wikipedia. The French Collaboration Project maintains both a list of High Priority Translations (that anyone is encouraged to work on at any time) and (chosen from this list) a selected Translation of the Month.
Articles selected for translation may be chosen from the French language Wikipedia Quality Articles or more generally from any French language articles judged solid, accurate, and free of copyright issues, and having no article or a basic stub page on the English Wikipedia. The aim is to develop, through widespread co-operative translation, featured-standard articles, or at least ones of high quality, on subjects which may not otherwise have been addressed on the English Wikipedia.
Note: as of December 2006, translations from French will be dealt with at Wikipedia:Translation/_fr. The French Translation of the Week, however, will stay in a separate, renamed version of the French Collaboration Project page. This section will be modified accordingly, as these changes are implemented.
[edit] Translation/Missing Articles
In addition to requests listed on the French Collaboration Project (including their "collaboration of the month"), please consult the various subpages of Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles (and specifically Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/fr) and Wikipedia:Translation into English/French to find articles that have yet to be added to the English language wikipedia, or consult Wikipedia:Requested articles for articles that have been requested by users.
You may also add your own requests below. In some cases, it is helpful to see if the French Wikipedia already has the requested article.
User Requested Articles (feel free to add to the list):
- History
- Territorial formation of France - (there exists fr:Formation territoriale de la France, but it should be expanded. Ideally, this would be a "main" page referenced on each of the History of France chronological period articles in the section "geography")
- fr:Parlement de Bretagne to Parlement of Brittany or Parliament of Brittany
- fr:Parlement de Toulouse to Parlement of Toulouse or Parliament of Toulouse
- Politics
- fr:Parlement français: the equivalent en Wiki article - Parliament of France/French Parliament -
is currently a Redirect to French National Assembly/Government of France.This is such a fundamental topic for one of the key countries in the world that that fudge does seem to be rather unsatisfactory. (Even it and no wikis have managed to beat en wiki to translating it.) - fr:Charte de 1814 to Charter of 1814
- fr:Charte de 1815 to Charter of 1815
fr:Charte de 1830 to Charter of 1830- fr:Constitution de 1848 to French Constitution of 1848
fr:Constitution de 1852 to French Constitution of 1852- fr:Lois constitutionnelles de 1875 to French Constitutional Laws of 1875
- fr:Loi constitutionnelle de 1940 to French Constitutional Law of 1940
- fr:Constitution de 1946 to French Constitution of 1946
- fr:Constitution de 1958 to French Constitution of 1958
- fr:Chambre des députés to Chamber of Deputies of France (many Fr-related pages have links to Chamber of Deputies)
- fr:Chambre des pairs to Chambre des pairs (many Fr-related pages have links to Chamber of Peers)
- Minister of Housing (France) - no corresponding French article
- fr:Parlement français: the equivalent en Wiki article - Parliament of France/French Parliament -
- Culture
La Gazette from fr:La Gazette. Translated. It could probably use some copyediting though. Equendil Talk 00:22, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
- Places:
- none at the moment
- People:
- Marthe Richard from fr:Marthe Richard
- List of French language authors - an excellent source of articles to be written.
- Bertrand de Bar-sur-Aube (1190 - 1217)
- Pierre MacOrlan (Pierre Dumarchais) (1882 - 1970) from fr:Pierre Mac Orlan
- Jules Supervielle (1884 - 1960) from fr:Jules Supervielle
Joë Bousquet (1897 - 1950) from fr:Joë Bousquet
- List of French artists - another excellent source of articles to be written.
- Charles Marville (1816-1879) painter, engraver, photographer
- Pierre Tal-Coat (1905-1985) painter
- Gérard Garouste (1946-) sculptor, painter, other media
- Christophe Philippe Oberkampf - textile manufacturer
[edit] France current events
You can contribute to the wikinews:Portal:France page on wikinews. This page catalogues key events in France.
[edit] Categories and category sorting
- Category:French writers - this is currently huge. Authors need to be placed on sub-pages and some categories made need to be created.
[edit] Stubs and stub sorting
There are many stubs at Category:France stubs that could use completion. Stubs may also be sorted into the following French categories:
- French stubs - {{France-stub}} - in general, this stub category should not be used if a better subcategory exists
- French people stubs - {{France-bio-stub}}
- French academic stubs - {{France-academic-bio-stub}}
- French architect stubs - {{France-architect-stub}}
- French artist stubs - {{France-artist-stub}}
- French business bio stubs - {{France-business-bio-stub}}
- French composer stubs - {{France-composer-stub}}
- French engineer stubs - {{France-engineer-stub}}
- French film biography stubs - {{France-film-bio-stub}}
- French law biography stubs - {{France-law-bio-stub}}
- French mathematician stubs - {{France-mathematician-stub}}
- French musician stubs - {{France-musician-stub}}
- French musical group stubs - {{France-band-stub}}
- French nobility stubs - {{France-noble-stub}}
- French painter stubs - {{France-painter-stub}}
- French politician stubs - {{France-politician-stub}}
- French religious biography stubs - {{France-reli-bio-stub}}
- French scientist stubs - {{France-scientist-stub}}
- French singer stubs - {{France-singer-stub}}
- French sportspeople stubs - {{France-sport-bio-stub}}
- French writer stubs - {{France-writer-stub}}
- French building and structure stubs - {{France-struct-stub}}
- French university stubs - {{France-university-stub}}
- France geography stubs ({{France-geo-stub}}
- Alsace geography stubs ({{Alsace-geo-stub}}
- Aquitaine geography stubs ({{Aquitaine-geo-stub}}
- Auvergne geography stubs ({{Auvergne-geo-stub}}
- Bourgogne geography stubs ({{Bourgogne-geo-stub}}
- Bretagne geography stubs ({{Bretagne-geo-stub}}
- Région Centre geography stubs ({{Centre-geo-stub}}
- Champagne-Ardenne geography stubs ({{Champagne-geo-stub}}
- (no category) ({{Corsica-geo-stub}}
- Franche-Comté geography stubs ({{Franche-geo-stub}}
- Île-de-France geography stubs ({{IledeFrance-geo-stub}}
- Languedoc-Roussillon geography stubs ({{Languedoc-geo-stub}}
- (no category) ({{Limousin-geo-stub}}
- Lorraine geography stubs ({{Lorraine-geo-stub}}
- Midi-Pyrénées geography stubs {{Pyrenees-geo-stub}}
- Nord-Pas-de-Calais geography stubs ({{PasdeCalais-geo-stub}}
- Basse-Normandie geography stubs ({{BasseNormandie-geo-stub}}
- Haute-Normandie geography stubs ({{Haute-Normandie-geo-stub}}
- Pays-de-la-Loire geography stubs ({{Loire-geo-stub}}
- Picardie geography stubs ({{Picardie-geo-stub}}
- Poitou-Charentes geography stubs ({{Poitou-geo-stub}}
- Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur geography stubs ({{Provence-geo-stub}}
- Rhône-Alpes geography stubs ({{RhoneAlpes-geo-stub}}
- French Polynesia geography stubs {{FrenchPolynesia-geo-stub}}
- French rail stubs - {{France-rail-stub}}
- French history stubs - {{France-hist-stub}}
[edit] France-related articles with disputes or other problems
The following articles have alleged problems with factual accuracy, copyright, lack of citations or neutrality. Articles based on the 11th edition of the Encyclopædia Britannica of 1911 are particularly problematic, due to their Victorian aesthetic pronouncements, outdated references and frequent Francophobia (please add {{1911POV}} to indicate that it is substantially a copy of 1911, with a serious POV problem). See also Category:NPOV disputes. Note to contributors: summarize, in a neutral manner, the nature of the dispute here, but please keep the discussion on the talk pages.
- Napoleon I of France - see the discussion on Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Napoleon I of France/archive1
Views of the French military - POV article about the french military, originally a section entitled "View of French military in the United States" in Military history of France.Entry was deleted through AfD Equendil Talk 21:30, 7 September 2006 (UTC)- Cannes Film Festival - dispute on mention of 1930 creation as in reaction to German fascism; article also includes an expansion tag.
- Anti-Sacrilege Act - recently created; does "elected under restricted census suffrage" express a POV, given that most 19th century French governments were elected in this way? Requests for mediation initiated.
- Encyclopédie -neutrality problems in the history section of the article (from the Britannica 1911) which tries to portray the Encyclopédie as essentially an English work pirated by evil Frenchmen using dubious legal proceedings to dispossess innocent English editors.
- 2005 civil unrest in France
- Front National (France)
- Economy of Paris - see discussion at Talk:Economy of Paris as well as this notice board's talk page. The dispute concerns use of the expression "Paris metropolitan area" vs. the actual city limits of Paris; accusation of possible original research.
- Foreign relations of France Middle East section
- Jules Janin - issues with 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica judgements
- Peerage of France - issues with copyvio
[edit] France-related articles with cleanup tags
The following articles have been tagged for cleanup (ungrammatical, poorly formatted, confusing, etc.). This may require some copy editing, wikifying and correction of English usage; sometimes a major rewrite is needed. Articles based on the 11th edition of the Encyclopædia Britannica of 1911 are particularly problematic, due to their outdated English (please add {{Update-eb}} to the page to indicate that it is substantially a copy of 1911, and needs to be updated). Please add to the list, and include the clean-up date if indicated. See also Category:All pages needing cleanup.
- Antoine de la Sale - August 2005
- French rock - November 2005
- Human rights in France - December 2005
- Alexis de Tocqueville - April 2006
[edit] France-related articles needing expansion
The following articles are in need of expansion. See also Category:Articles to be expanded. Feel free to add to the list:
- Vichy - could be expanded by translation from fr wiki
- Iran-France relations
- French literature of the 18th century
- Contemporary French literature
- Economic history of France
- French culture
- French art - (all centuries)
[edit] Templates
- Template:French literature (small) - needs to be placed on French author/lit pages
[edit] Requests for pictures
- Iran-France relations - Map, photographs showing relations (ideals would include: the Shah/Chat incedent & Napoleon+Qajars)
- Claude-Louis Navier - Need picture for the biography.
[edit] User boxes
- Template:User French history - "This user is interested in the history of France"
- Template:User Napoleon interested - "This user is interested in Napoleon"
[edit] Related Projects
- Wikipedia:WikiProject French communes - This WikiProject is an attempt to formulate a template for the French communes and to eventually create an article for each of the 36,782 communes.
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Paris Streets - A project to create a small article (if possible) for every notable street in Paris, including a description of its creation date, name, past names, mouths (from/into what street), visual description (new constructions, old, winding, narrow, cobblestoned, etc) with (if possible) a photo.
- Quebec Wikipedians' notice board - includes a Quebec Collaboration of the Week, to do lists and translation requests.
[edit] Members
The following is a list of Wikipedians who are either French, or speak French, or live in France or in a Francophone country, or are working on France-related articles. Feel free to add or remove yourself from this list. It is recommended that you add this page to your watchlist.
There are also category lists of Wikipedians in France, French Wikipedians and French speaking Wikipedians. You can join these list by inserting one of the relevant templates on your userpage.
[edit] Active Members
- NYArtsnWords (talk)
- Durova raised Joan of Arc to FA, raised Cultural depictions of Joan of Arc to FLC (in progress) Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Cultural depictions of Joan of Arc.
- MPD01605 (talk) very interested.
- Nicobrown4589 (talk)
- User:kessler
- Brian
- ThePromenader
- Dangherous
[edit] Inactive Members
- None