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[edit] Deletion of school article
I'm not a non-deletionist, just less of a deletionist than I used to be. :) Having said that, I have a generally inclusionist view of school articles. There is some relevant discussion on the deletion of schools at Wikipedia:WikiProject Schools which you might want to read, along with a lot of discussion and not much consensus at Wikipedia talk:Deletion policy/schools.
The page was marked for deletion on October 10th, so that would have showed up as an edit on your watchlist. If you feel the deletion was a violation of Wikipedia:Deletion policy despite the majority of voters asking for it to be deleted, then you could try listing it at Wikipedia:Votes for undeletion (VfU), but this does not guarantee the vote will go differently a second time. Please don't just recreate it without going to VfU since that would make it a Candidate for speedy deletion. Angela. 21:35, Jan 4, 2005 (UTC)
- Hi Frank, I noticed your comment on Angela's user page, so I took a look at the last revision of your article. What I saw was borderline—it wouldn't have done any harm to keep it (I personally wouldn't have voted on it) but once challenged it would be hard to restore.
- What I see is this. The article is pretty much simply descriptive, not really telling very much about the school other than it exists. A few things occur to me that the article doesn't answer: Who started the school? When? Why? Were the local public schools bad? Were the founders trying to accomplish something special? An all-girls middle school? Why? Is there a problem for girls that age (one of my girls is that age, so I have an idea) where you are in a co-ed population? What is their view toward a girl's role in life? Does the school have a feminist bent? Or a traditionalist bent? Any attitude toward religious or moral teachings? Is the population at your significantly different from the public school community. Is this just for grades 6-8? Where were the girls before? Where will the girls be at high-school age?
- If you feel you can answer some of those questions in an informative article which sets aside your middle school from the umpty-thousands of middle schools across the US, simply write the article (NOT the same article rehashed) and post. If it is not the same as the article that was deleted, it can stand on its own, and if it answers some of my question, it very likely wouldn't be deleted if someone were to post it on VfD again. Cheers, Cecropia | explains it all ® 01:46, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)
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- Hi Cecropia, Thanks for your comments and suggestions. I will take your suggestions and write a new article! Thanks for the feedback. But I have one question - where did you find the text of the original article I posted? If you have it would you please post it here? I couldn't find it anywhere and I did not keep a copy for myself. I promise to not just repost it and will definately answer many of the questions you asked before I repost it. Thanks again. -- FrankH 20:05, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Text of school article
Admins can access deleted articles until the articles are permanently erased by the developers, which is one of those "whenever they get around to it" issues. The text is below. Good luck! Maybe you'll let me know when your new article is posted. -- Cheers, Cecropia | explains it all ® 21:30, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Article text
The Girls’ Middle School (GMS) is a private all girls' school for grades 6, 7 and 8 in Mountain View, California.
Although GMS is a private school they attempt to maintain an economically and socially diverse student body by offering scholarships to students who would not otherwise be able to attend due to the cost.
GMS emphasizes science, math, computer science, entrepreneurial skills, Spanish, social and emotional learning, woodshop, pottery, art and organizational skills – in addition to the normal subjects of a middle school. There is usually a week of science camp in 6th grade, a one week trip to Washington, D.C in 7th grade and a 10 day trip to Mexico in 8th grade where they can use the Spanish they have learned at school.
