Talk:Frank Miller (comics)

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There is another cartoonist named Frank Miller. He wrote and drew the comic "Barney Baxter", I think... If there were two pages, How would we solve that problem? call the other Frank_Miller_2 or something?

OK, the solution chosen was Frank Miller (1898-1949). Cumbersome title, butI guess it'd work...

Contents 1 Where does he live now? 2 Robocop comics 3 The DGA controversy 4 When did Frank marry Lynn? 5 Dark Knight Strikes Again 6 Miller has its share of crappy comics alright 7 some bias 8 New Pic 9 Lack of criticisms 10 Outspoken Politics Missing 11 What are his influences ?

[edit] Where does he live now?

In the early Daredevil comics, and in TDKR, there is a palpable NYC feel to things. Then Miller moved LA and Sin City (and Hard Boiled) had a total LA feel. Anyone know where he is now? If he's doing Holy Terror! my guess is NYC.

[edit] Robocop comics

I was positive the Robocop comics were originally published by Dark Horse. I know they've had crossovers with other DH properties (like Robocop vs. Terminator). — Gwalla | Talk 01:07, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

There were a number of RoboCop comics. Marvel Comics had the first license and was also responsible for the first cartoon. When they lost the license, around the time of RoboCop 3, Dark Horse picked it up and did a number of crossovers with other licensed characters like Terminator (RoboCop vs. Terminator was written by Miller and drawn by Walter Simonson). A full list of each company's RoboCop comics can be found here [1]. While a RoboCop 3 comic was made by Dark Horse, it was an adaptation of the movie written by Steven Grant. Years later, Avatar Press aqquired the license and Grant directly adapted Miller's RoboCop 2 screenplay as "Frank Miller's RoboCop".

— Revenger | Talk 01:07, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Ah, thanks. — Gwalla | Talk 22:37, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The DGA controversy

A lot more could be said about the controversy over Miller's "co-director" credit but I feel much of it isn't relevant in this article. It certainly had nothing to do with Miller's non-membership in the DGA, at least not according to Rodriguez or Miller in every interview I've heard. --feitclub 06:55, July 28, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] When did Frank marry Lynn?

Anyone know?

[edit] Dark Knight Strikes Again

There seems to be a problem with the line "Miller's repetition of these particular themes, and especially his use of them here, have caused some fans to question the writer/artist's apparent preoccupation with them." over whether it is POV. As it's written, it is to me and seems more fitting on a message board. However, there should be mention of Miller's recent work being more exploitative without good reason but we shouldn't slip into speculation.Logan1138 18:22, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Miller has its share of crappy comics alright

How about that Spawn comic he wrote?... how all the spawns he wrote?, Miller can write some pretty plotless nonsense from time to time ("All Star Batman and Robin the Boy Wonder", for example ). Should it be mentioned here?

The article shouldn't posit an opinion one way or another, whether his work is "good" or "bad". If there are citable sources criticizing some of his work, that could be considered fair play. - DynSkeet * Talk 12:08, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

What do you mean, could be fair play? Of course it's fair play. I'm getting really tired of a double standard where positive comments can be vague and with no citation but negative comments might be erased even with exhaustive citation.

Fandom is really a sign of cultural decadence, in wich the phenomennon you describe happends freely in Wikipedia. Articles related to merchandiseable products are truly the hardest to keep clean, or to try to keep at bay. For example, for every little crappy character that World of Warcraft has, there is a full article about it, wich is impossible to try to erase or merge because whenever there is a voting process every fan votes "KEEP", same thing for Star Wars. And while articles like those flourish from out of nowhere, historical articles rust for lack of schollars, with the exception of politics, where youll always find students and wackos to keep an article mighty updated.

[edit] some bias

I think there needs to be some citation to the following

Miller is known for his hatred against the Superman character and is known to write him getting beaten up.

sure miller has gotten supes beaten up a couple of times, but i don't think it's nessicarily becasue of hatred. this statement seems pretty biased to me.

Miller has a great love for the Superman character, even if his ideaology is more in line with Batman's. CmdrClow 02:00, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

While I agree that the statement you quote is biased and unsourced, I do believe Miller has a vehement dislike of the Superman character. Show me one instance where he's put Superman in his comics and not taken the opportunity to take the piss out of him. The appearances in ASB&R are the worst yet. Seb Patrick 08:32, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New Pic

Please someone get a new pic, that one seems squashed and makes his head look like a melon. Elijya 06:34, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lack of criticisms

For a guy who's been called a sexist on the blogosphere and has even been suggested to be a coward by Grant Morrison in an interview, I'm surprised there's no criticism of him in the article relating to these views. -- LGagnon 19:38, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Then you take the damn stress about it and write it!, try to see how much it'll stay in here before it gets erased or euphemized by fans.

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[edit] Outspoken Politics Missing

For example, Frank Miller is quoted by Publisher's Weekly responding to the Mohommed Cartoon conflicts: "The harsh truth is that we're facing an enemy that keeps telling us what they are and what they want," declared Miller, adding that people refuse to believe it. "They have made it plain they want to exterminate the Jews, to bring down the West, to achieve world dominion," then comparing them to Nazis in the 30s.

[edit] What are his influences ?

I read in a book that Will Eisner and His work influenced Miller in his comics and on a website thatThe Spirit story "Showdown with the octopus" inspired Miller in his work in Daredevil.

Can we add an "Influences" section in the article?

If you don't just call me.

Tgunn2 20:59, 11 November 2006 (UTC)