Talk:François de Charette

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[edit] Nobility

Snapdragonfly, can I enquire from where you have the information that Charette was not noble ? It seems very bizarr to me: he has a typical noble name, a typical noble work, and everywhere I look, it seems that he was from a noble family ([1] says that he was the descendant to the 13th generation of a knight made a noble by Duguesclin... that's be quite a nobility ! :p Rama 21:17, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Suddenly I have doubt... Sorry, I'll revert; I was using my fuzzy memory and confused Charette with d'Elbée. Snapdragonfly

That's quite right, nice thing to have people intersted.

That said, d'Elbée was an army officer before the Vendean war, so the chances that he was a nobleman, especially with this name, are high; his family had been "un-noble" in the 17th century, but it seems that by the 18th, tey were noblemen. Aren't you thinking of Jacques Cathelineau ? (Note: [2] is very useful.. :P )

Anyway, these nobility thingies are a real nightmare to sort out. It is a sport favoured amongst the nobility, and one of the good reasons to have a republic, if you ask me ! :D Rama 19:29, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

I seem to recall that he was for some time an officer in the Empire because of the limitations on promotion to non-nobles. As for monarchy; at least they're honest about being an unequal society. ;p Snapdragonfly 19:44, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Sorry who was an officer of which Empire ? Rama 19:53, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

D'Elbée, in the HRE, sorry Snapdragonfly 19:59, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Oh yes ! Well, his father worked in Dresden for the king of Poland, so he quite naturally joined the army of Saxe; in fact he came back to France later, where indeed his career went so slow that he decided to resign (or so gvendee.free.fr says :p). Rama 20:44, 23 August 2005 (UTC)