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This is my talk page. You can leave a message for me here.--Fox Mccloud 21:13, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

pmhummel@gmail.com writes:

Great map of Persian language area. The one major spot you seem to be missing is Uzbekistan. There are millions of Persian speakers (the actual number is hotly contested & uzbek gov't likes to sweep the question under the rug). In Samarkand and Bukhara, Persian speaking goes on behind closed doors...

Contents 1 Esperanto 2 Learning Arabic 3 Zlatiborian 4 Ottoman Wiki 5 ottoman wiki 6 Ottoman language 7 Wassup 8 Thanks 9 User Page 10 Basmala 11 Arab League 12 Admin Requests for Ottoman Wikipedia 13 New proposal for Ottoman Wikipedia

[edit] Esperanto

Just curious, why do you dislike Esperanto?Cameron Nedland 19:18, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I was wondering about that, too. I too am curious to hear the reason.

--Verdlanco\^talk 21:42, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply! Very interesting!

--Verdlanco\^talk 09:42, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for taking rufly forever to reply, but I can see what you are getting at. As for the European bit, many Esperantist are Chinese and say that the structure is very similar to Chinese. And the Latin Alphabet part, check out Shavian alphabet. If I am being an asshole, just tell me to leave you alone.Cameron Nedland 02:25, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Okay, thanks bro.Cameron Nedland 02:01, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Learning Arabic

Thanks for the information! I've looked at Pimsleur, but I never thought of checking it out on Ebay...All your suggestions were tremendously insightful! Hopefully, I'll be Arabic-ing soon enough to travel to Egypt. Thanks again! Liv--Alped'huez 22:56, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Zlatiborian

A language-dialect spoken in South-Western Serbia; raughly spoken, it looks like a mixture of Serbian and Bosnian (and some words are similar to Montenegrin and Croatian). There was a question on Wikipedia does this language exist. It does, it is just not clear whether it is simply a dialect of Serbian, or it may be defined as a separate language. It is characterized by specific ijekavski rendering of Old Slavonic letter yat and neo-shtokavski accentuation. Unlike Serbian, there are no letters f and h in this language, but there is letter shy, like in Montenegrin. The vocabulary is partly specific. Some Zlatiborians often consider this language unlitteral and use it only with friends and relatives, while they use Serbian in formal occasions, which they consider more cultural. Although many Zlatiborians actually call this language-dialect 'Serbian' (some say 'ours', 'uzican', or 'zlatiborian'), they all are well aware of its differences and specialities. --Djordje D. Bozovic 17:25, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, there is an article at Serbian Wikipedia. The one that existed here was deleted because it was POV. --Djordje D. Bozovic 17:37, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

thank yuo for your message about Ottoman Language--Tarih 06:46, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ottoman Wiki

Hi. Will Ottoman wiki be in latin or arab or two of them. I thing two of them. I wrote here. It must be in two alfabet and not ota.wikipedia.org The true is osm.wikipedia.org --Absar 12:09, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ottoman wiki

thanks for propose ootoman wiki, ı first used my opinion. ı think it can be intersting wikipedia. In turkish wikipedia is getting trouble for improveing. may be ottoman wiki can be new way. Also historical resourses can be used easally. Some of my computer engener's freind has started to make a project on ottoman OSR.It can be useful for old resoerses.thanks for you.

I Wrote some centences at Ottoman vikipedi you can look--Tarih 04:56, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ottoman language

we need Ottoman language alfabet like Azerbaycan vikipedia I wrote some sentences at ottoman language vikipedia. But first of all I wrote them at Azerbaycan vikipedia with Arab alfabet later copy them to Ottoman Language vikipedia . It is very easy writing Ottoman language with Ottoman Alfabet. But, We haven't got ottoman alfabet--Tarih 12:28, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wassup

Dude im new at this article stuff and i don't know how you guys do it.My first article is a stub and nothing compared to what most people to do its called Alfgifu. I thought maybe you can teach me how to make cool articles ;). Hill dude 01:54, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the help dude, but i need to ask you do u gather info and put it in to your own words or do you just write in the info that you find?Hill dude 16:31, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User Page

yea... one more thing could you tell me how you made your user page i dont get tutorial if you cant it alrightHill dude 17:30, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Basmala

Unfortunately for your edit, Basmala is the name of the ENTIRE PHRASE whose first word is Bismillah, as is explained on the Basmala article page itself, and discussed very extensively on the Basmala talk page. Thank you. AnonMoos 01:41, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Arab League

Responding on your comments on the 2050 Maps..

-Alaska- i personaly think that Alaska is more Isolated then any other State in the US, the Idea came to me after chatting over it with an alaskan guy telling me that there is a strong precentage of Alaskans see themselves as an Independant State, but the US governments tries to hide it and isolate Alaska more so that Americans not realize that... which is increasing the demands for Seperation by Alaskans..

-Caribbean Community- The Republics of Central Americas are a;ready members o the Caribbean Community, which makes them a strong candidates or Unity, and that they share the same culture, languge, ad history.

-Incan Union- are already independant, most ruling parties are of incan oigins,i think the movement in these countries, particularly in Peru, Bolivia, Ecuadore and Venezuela for a nativ country is gowing, with Peru and Bolivia and Ecuadore adopting there native language as the official language along with Spanish, can one ay change to delete Spanish from these countries.

-Arab League- Arabs are willing to Unite Today, but our only problem is our US suported Governments, starting with Egyptian Mubarak, all the way to the newest Puppet President of Iraq, calling for US troops to stay in Iraq or ever. once these dictators leave, and people get Power over their Governments, The Arabs will work for Unity that has been completely lost in WW1.

-Africans- Africa is an extreamly divided continent, that will suffer, unless Unity is formed, and Grand Unity of Africa will anger minorities of the minorities, so i divided them according to locations, except for East Arica, since they share a majority in Swahili, and Ethiopia that is alsmost enclaved in the Arab League.

-Persian United States- Irani influence over these countries is getting stronger then evern now, already economic links are being made. while Pakistan and Afghanistan are becoming so close with each othes, especially that they both share American Puppet Leaders, Musharaf and Qarazai. and the entire region shares strong "persian" culture, and history.

-Korea and Japan- i think that economically both nations will merge, and will not join each others politicaly, i think that both Koreas will unite one day, and probably after the Nuclear Crisis. then capitalism will strike North Korea, and merging with japan will occure one day..

Alaska - The South of the American Civil War had a much better chance of separation then Alaska does right now. If they started a civil war, they would be beaten badly

i dont think a war will spark between Alaska and the US, but rather a peacefull seperation will occure like the balic states. Caribean Community - No, many of the central American nations have a more Mayan culture and history. Many of them still speak Mayan. The Caribean islands don't have this.

Perhaps your right, but geographically, i think they will need to face its surrounding powers, such as Mexico, USA etc... Incan Union - That would be awesome: A rebirth of the Incan empire. :) I don't think Columbia or Venezuela would join, though they were never Incan, and have few Incans today. Paraquay would probably stay separate of Argentina, since they have a large native population.

i must agree with you, Venezuela and Colombia are as incan as they are chinese, but perhaps they would one day merge into the older Grand Colombia... Paraguay does have a bigger Native population then Argentina, but i dont think its a reason for stopping a merge.

Arab League - History lesson: The Arabs were not united even before WWI. They had already been divided by European empires. Before the Europeans, they were only "united" because they had been conquered by the Ottoman Empire. We are having a hard time keeping Iraq united, so are you sure unity is what the Arabs want? Also, I doubt Israel would be defeated by the Arabs. At least not as long as the US continues it's support of Israel, and is Somalia Arab? I thought their people were Somalis not Arabs?

no, its not conquest, the Arab world has been united under several dynasties, the Fatimids, Abbasids, Ummayids, and later on the Ottomans, perhaps not totaly united, putting the Mohavids Dynasty and other Moroccan Dynasties ruling north Africa. as for Israel, the Demographics of Israel will be flipped within 20-30 years, with palestinians as a majority, Israeli jews will eventually merge in a greater Arab State. and no, even tho somalia is a majorly Somali ethnics group, but Arabic is widely understood and is the second language their.

Africa - Africa is unlikely to unite any time soon. African nations have so many problems, uniting would be the last thing they worry about.

i believe that Africa is entering an age where civil wars are being treated peacefully, sevearl peace treaties have occured, such as Sudan, Rwanda, Uganda, DR.Congo, and others in the way, such as Ivory Coast, and others. perhaps within 20 to 40 years they will start to rely on regional blocks in africa, South Africa is already emerging as an economic block, that might eventually unite.

Persian United States - How much Iranian influence is there on nations like Kazakhstan? Will they be speaking Persian in another 50 years? Furthermore, how would being American "puppets" help Pakistan and Afghanistan's relationship with Iran? Also, what would happen in Iran? Would the Islamic theocracy eventually be overthrown in a revolution, and Iran would establish a more... modern state?

First of all, i refuse that you call Iran's Islamic Theocracy as an old State while a democratic as a modern state... this ideology is linked somehow to political reasons, like calling Communists as Evil and bad, while calling democracy as good, Communism is good but need to be applied correct, so is the Sharia, but unfortunatly they were both not applied correctly. regardless, i think Pakistan will have a new policy in the near future (5 years MAX.) with Musharaf either assasinated or a coup de etate. and will head for its islamic neihgbor of Iran, as for afghanistan, it will grow as a democracy eventually, and will have an elected president, liberated from American Control, Iranian Influence over central asia is not what will unite the region, the region is attached with each others economically, religiously, culturally & geographically the fact that Tajikstan, Iran and Afghanistan all have persian majorities WILL influence Central asian republics all the way to north Kazakhstan in Astana...

Korea and Japan - Theres no doubt that North Korea is doomed to failure one day. I don't think they will merge with Japan though. The closest they would get is some kind of Anti-China defense agreement.

perhaps your right... but Japan and Korea are getting closer to each others day by day, and its only a matter of time when Communist North falls, perhaps after a military defeat or political defeat... a close case to Pakistan.

[edit] Admin Requests for Ottoman Wikipedia

There are admin test requests happeningfor Ottoman Test Wiki you may like to participate. Mehrdad 00:38, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New proposal for Ottoman Wikipedia

Hello, Fox Mccloud

Ottoman Wikipedia page to change It ıs here [1] So we Request for new languages/Wikipedia Ottoman Turkish 2 again. The proposal format for the opening of new languages has changed. So We had to submit a new proposal for the Ottoman Wikipedia. One of the new conditions for acceptance is participation of more than 5 users in editing effort, so your participation in creating and editing new articles would help. we need your help--Tarih 18:58, 8 December 2006 (UTC)