Talk:Four Freedoms (European Union)
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[edit] criticism
The criticism section is too polar, as if there is only a (political) debate between 'neoliberals' and 'left-wing criticasters'. There are more fundamental issues at stake too. Intangible 22:23, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
- I read through it, and it does appear to be quite compact and specific on small issues. I'm not versed in EU politics. For those of us who live outside the EU, the section provides no context, explanation or proper introduction. I'm going to slap a different tag on it, if you don't mind. It still needs improvement. Joffeloff 21:21, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
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- No problem. About the free movement of persons being a negative right, I am not sure that is the case though for the EU. This is one of those fundamental issues that needs to be talked about in the article. Intangible 21:38, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
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- Most libertarians agree that closed borders are coercion, and that free movement over borders is a negative right. The way I interpreted this, the 'free movement' in the EU guarantees the right to be able to work in other EU countries, as long as you have got work there - I'd consider that a negative right. Of course, if it's anything like FDR's 'freedom from want', it's definitely a positive right. This is part of what I mean, I don't get this stuff since I don't discuss it daily like you (perhaps) do. :) Joffeloff 05:36, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] new version
I have substantially rewritten the article, explaining the basics in simpler terms, and covering in a little more detail two of the four freedoms. Other will, without doubt, be added. I felt complied to remove the 'criticism' section completely, not because it lacks interesting points but mainly on the account of the confusing way in which it was written. User:as286, 23:29, 23 June 2006 (GMT) 2
