Talk:Foreign relations of the People's Republic of China
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Added lots of stuff. In doing so I realized how totally unenlightening and unuseful the information from the CIA factbook is.
[edit] Name of article
I moved foreign relations of China to foreign relations of the People's Republic of China to (1) better reflect the content of the article (2) conform to Wikipedia's NPOV policy (3) be consistent with Category:Foreign relations of the People's Republic of China (4) be consistent with foreign relations of the Republic of China. —Lowellian (talk)[[]] 22:03, Nov 20, 2004 (UTC)
- I dont agree with the move. We would have to purge Foreign_relations_of_the_People's_Republic_of_China#Imperial_China from the article. Perhaps write an overview article detailing the entire history from whenever? Until that is done, I don't think this should be moved. --Jiang 22:27, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Okay. Purging that part would be good. What should the name of the article for that part be named? Foreign relations of imperial China? Foreign relations of Imperial China? Foreign relations of China? —Lowellian (talk)[[]] 00:23, Nov 21, 2004 (UTC)
- It should be at Foreign relations of China where each era would have a summary. The material we have so far is very general and not worth its own article. --Jiang 00:55, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Chapter 12 of the LOC Country study has not been incorported yet. --Jiang 03:39, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Again, I think it's premature to be turning foreign relations of China into a disambiguation page. Major changes like this should at least receive warning and concensus on the talk page. Foreign relations of China should be orphaned if we are to keep the current setup. If Foreign relations of imperial China doesnt improve significantly I will merge it into [Foreign relations of China] as part of an overview. --Jiang 19:36, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)
I don't understand what you mean by the word "orphaned". Clarification?
I copied foreign relations of imperial China from the text originally on foreign relations of the People's Republic of China, and then I expanded it. Admittedly, the article's prose and organization could do with further improvement.
—Lowellian (talk)[[]] 04:17, Nov 22, 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Relations with Vatican
The press says the PRC and Vatican broke diplomatic relations in 1951. ([1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]) When did they established diplomatic relations? The relevant article on Wikipedia has no mention. Meanwhile the foreign relations of the ROC and foreign relations of the Vatican City articles say the ROC-Vatican diplomatic relations has been in place since 1942. — Instantnood 15:48, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
- Are you confusing the ROC and the PRC? The Republic of China is the Taiwanese government that claims to be the authentic China - mainly via the U.N. system and some intense lobbying efforts. The People's Republic of China is the ruling government on the Chinese mainland which is widely recognized as the official government of the political entity "China" (and holds the U.N. security council seat). The PRC is almost always what is meant by "China", because the ROC's claim is basically technical. In order to establish diplomatic relations, the PRC has long demanded that countries first recognize China as unified - thereby denouncing the ROC's claim.
- For what it's worth, my unsourced, personal knowledge says that the Vatican broke relations with the then-Communist, then-atheist PRC around 1950 or so, while relations with the ROC are ongoing and have been good (because the ROC needs recognition badly). I understand the new Pope Benedict XVI has offered to mend relations with the PRC (see [7]). This is unlikely to happen unless the Vatican modifies its stance towards the ROC.
- --Vector4F 06:33, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Taiwan's inclusion
Shouldn't be listed here, as it is self-governing and makes its own foreign policy (regardless if people think that is legal or not). Removed.
