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Contents 1 Discography 2 Album release dates 3 Are they a 1990s music group? 4 References 5 GA on hold 6 GA passed 7 on that music chart 8 A sentence that bugs me... 9 Hwanhee/Fany 10 The topic above brings us to another question 11 Featured article

[edit] Discography

The discography section is REALLY messy. Is there anyone who can clean it up? I'll do it if necessary, but I don't know FTTS very well.... SKS2K6 08:00, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Album release dates

Please come up with a reliable source for their album release dates, especially for the sixth album. mirageinred 14:05, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Are they a 1990s music group?

I was wondering Fly to the Sky page should get Category:1990s music groups, since they debuted in 1999, but they debuted in December, so I'm not really sure. mirageinred 15:56, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] References

Shouldn't there be an English translation of the titles of the articles referenced? -- ArglebargleIV 02:44, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Should I leave the korean titles in and then put the english translation or should they all be turned to english? mirageinred 18:24, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

The translations are not 100% exact, but they are roughly accurate. Are there anything else to be done? mirageinred 18:33, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Looks fantastic to me -- thanks!!!! -- ArglebargleIV 21:26, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

No problem. =) mirageinred 01:27, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GA on hold

This article will be put on hold (for 7 days) until these minor adjustments can be made :

1. Well written? Pass

2. Factually accurate? OK

3. Broad in coverage? Fail

4. Neutral point of view? Pass

5. Article stability? Pass

6. Images? Fail Pass

Additional comments :

• None of the images state their fair use rationale.
• Discography in a table is less appropriate than having each album in a subsection with a little explanation about the album especially because they don't link directly to an album subpage.
• No section on reception/criticism of the band.
• Needs a little copyedit to remove pov weasel words.
• Needs to be broadened.

Lincher 04:17, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GA passed

This article now passes the GA requirements for the latest modifications have broaden it and made it more accurate. Lincher 18:48, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

oh my god thank you!!! mirageinred 20:21, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] on that music chart

If we follow Lincher's recommendations.... I can talk about the third albums onward, but nothing before it. SKS2K6 06:34, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

I couldn't find any news articles regarding FttS's albums before 2003, but I will make pages for each album soon. mirageinred 01:15, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

This probably is because they really weren't THAT famous at that time. mirageinred 01:26, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah. Their third album was their turnaround album. "Sea of Love" was huge. :P SKS2K6 07:32, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Wow, I can't believe this. There are literally zero articles about Fly to the Sky before 2000. mirageinred 22:56, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

That's cuz they weren't that big.... Unlike other SM groups, they did not have a huge first album (considering that almost all the other groups had strong starts).SKS2K6 02:32, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A sentence that bugs me...

"After reflecting on this incident, Brian's eyes were brimming with tears." Can we change this? It sounds awkward to me. SKS2K6 02:32, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

What about changing brimming to brimmed? Still.. It sounds kinda passive. 19:29, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hwanhee/Fany

I think Fany's official name should be HwanHee and make Fany as a nickname. According to the Korean pronunciations, HwanHee is correct. 20:43 Nov 5, 2006

But his official "English-isation" is Fany. SKS2K6 05:14, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, not officially. I think Brian gave him that nickname in the early years, but it became more "official" as the term "Fany" was used in the album Sea of Love. I don't know. Fany's just so much more convinient. I mean, Brian's real name is Joo Min Kyu, but we don't really refer to him by Joo, you know? mirageinred 20:24, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

So the real official name is HwanHee and his nickname is Fany. I've never heard HwanHee refered as Fany in Korean shows. (Korean doesn't have "F" sound) Koreans call him HwanHee, then we should call him HwanHee. If we ask "Do you know Fany?" to Koreans, they won't know what we are talking about. I never knew HwanHee was called Fany until I watched HwanHee on YouTube. BTW I am Korean. (even if my writing kinda makes you think that I am not one >_>) How about changing wiki entries to "Even though HwanHee is the real name, just for convinience's sake, we call him by his nickname, Fany?" LOL this sounds weird. I gotta improve my English. >_< Nov 10, 2006

Well, Brian IS Brian. He's American, after all. As for Fany/Hwanhee...it's Fany in the booklets. BTW, I added a heading on here, just so it looks cleaner. :P SKS2K6 19:21, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, I'm Korean too, and lived in Korea for nine years. Obviously he is more commonly referred to as Hwanhee in Korea but this is an English wikipedia, and Fany is more americanized. Also, if you see look at their album pictures, Hwanhee is written as "Fany" in English. I wish I had a picture. mirageinred 22:55, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The topic above brings us to another question

Should we address Brian Joo by his surname (usually preferred in formal writings) or Brian (his stage name)? mirageinred 01:10, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

This is a problem on many of the K-pop articles. I'd say...well, if FTTS was in North America or Europe, Brian would simply be his English name; therefore, Joo would be used. But in Korea, since it is his "stage name" (only because it's not Korean), I think it's okay to use Brian...but we're on the English wikipedia, so I don't exactly know what the standard would be in this case. SKS2K6 01:17, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Edit: I know that with stage names, the subject used is the stage name and not the official surname, like with Madonna (entertainer).

I guess we're going to simply call him Brian. mirageinred 02:06, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Featured article

I'm going to nominate this article for featured article after I specify the references section. Chances are probably slim since it has such high standards, but you never know. mirageinred 02:21, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Maybe try A-Class first. SKS2K6 20:03, 24 November 2006 (UTC)