Talk:Fly like a Raven
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This article has been protected from any further editing until the album is actually released, or details are confirmed by Hollywood Records. I have warned several times that Lilb1293, 71.240.253.89, 129.44.234.53, and 71.195.67.241 need to stop vandalising this page. However, you continued to add information that any person with common sense knows to be false.
The release date, track listing, and title of the album are all rumors that have been spread around by fans of Raven-Symoné, none of which have been confirmed. If the album was truly going to be released on December 19, 2006, we would have definetely heard something more.
Rhythmnation2004 18:04, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
- If it's unconfirmed that it will even be released, wouldn't it be best to delete the page and protect it? Anyway, would you mind removing the chart/sales trajectory (see WP:MUSIC/CHARTS#Chart trajectories)? —ShadowHalo 03:12, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
- An admin would have to do it, because the page is protected. Yes, I agree it may even be best to delete this page. However, it clearly states that it is all unconfirmed, so it should be OK for now. I would say it should be deleted if we receive no confirmations from Hollywood Records. by the end of January. Rhythmnation2004 20:34, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
I concur, completely. How is it that From Then Until was rumored to be the title of this album, only for us to find out that it is a re-release of Undeniable by an independent label? And if the title of this album, the track list and release date is based on unconfirmed rumors, then what can we conclude about the roster of producers, like Missy, Timba and the Neptunes? Are they also unconfirmed rumors as well? Shall we assume that the album will be released sometime in February or March? I have seen absolutely no information whatsoever from Hollywood Records' own Web site.
Rumored release dates or not (the next date would be her 4th for this album), the fact that word of her album has been around since early-September only confirms that there are issues and/or problems with this album serious enough to result in such chronic delays. The fact that it may be released well after the Christmas holiday shopping season does not bode well for Raven. Her last album, This Is My Time, sold only 250,000 copies. She has proven herself to be an exceptional group leader (with the rest of the Cheetah Girls), but not so well as a solo artist, and without the holidays, she will not get the extra sales push that comes with it.
In simpler language, When this album is released, if it is ever released, it had better be one hell of an album, or I'm afraid it will not fare that much better than her last one. -CookyMonzta (11 Dec., 12:50 A.M. E.S.T.)
- Hey cookymonza where need did you get the sales for her first two albums?72.94.46.100 00:34, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
An insider with access to SoundScan information quoted sales for This Is My Time. As for the first 2, someone else with better access than I did came up with those figures, because neither one made the pop or R&B album charts. They have been posted at this site, although I now question the validity of the 100,000 sales reported for Undeniable. There is no doubt, however, that sales of all of her first 3 albums combined never approached 400,000 in the U.S. -CookyMonzta (12 Dec., 4:04 P.M. E.S.T.)
